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241_029predictionRoboticshumanoids

Humanoid robot assembly of rockets is beyond current robots for a long time

Predictor: Eric Schmidt · ep#241 "Eric Schmidt on the Robotics Race, Singularity Timeline, and Energy Shortage" · source

Prior probability
60.0%
Current probability
27.9%
evolves via intake + LBP
Conviction
4/5
Signal quality
B
Resolution
pending
Window
2030-06-01 – 2030-06-30
Edges in / out
36 / 3
Tickers exposed
29

Prediction text

Humanoid robot assembly of rockets is beyond current robots for a long time | That kind of assembly is beyond current robots. I'm sure it will eventually show up, but not for a long time

Watch events: Figure 03 shipment volume; BMW, 2nd customer deployment count

Verbatim quote

From episode "Eric Schmidt on the Robotics Race, Singularity Timeline, and Energy Shortage"
That kind of assembly is beyond current robots. I'm sure it will eventually show up, but not for a long time

Predictor: Eric Schmidt

κ + Brier as of 2026-05-22
κ (discount)
0.688
Brier
0.0064
excellent
Hits / Misses
3 / 0
of 3 resolved
Hit rate
100.0%
Calibration plot (stated vs observed)

Evidence about this node from Eric Schmidt is multiplied by κ in /api/intake. Lower κ = less weight; floors at 0.10 (effectively silenced) and caps at 1.00 (full weight).

Reference class: humanoid_commercial_volume

Linked via embedding similarity 0.645

>10,000 unit cumulative deployment of humanoid robot SKU within 3 years of debut

Base rate
10.0%
0/3 historical
Inside weight
Outside weight
no pull
inside 27.9% → blend 27.9% 0.0pp)

Tetlock-style outside view: at TRF=1 (just predicted), outside view dominates (w_in=0.3). At TRF=0 (deadline), inside view dominates (w_in=1.0). The blend regularizes overconfident inside views toward the historical base rate.

Probability over time

6 prob_history rows
0%25%50%75%100%prior 60%2026-04-302026-04-302026-05-10
intake v2milestone miss sweeplbp propagationreference class assignedlegacy v1prior_prob (analyst seed)current = 27.9%

Milestone chain

Pre-event signals (upstream prereqs + window checkpoints) → resolution event → downstream cascades. Status/dates update from linked nodes; re-derive nightly via scripts/ops/derive_milestones.py.
Leading chain: 1 fired ✓ · 9 pending
  1. 2026-01-06hitBoston Dynamics Atlas commercial deployment in auto manufacturing
    How: Boston Dynamics Atlas units deployed in commercial production at Hyundai Motor Group manufacturing facilities
    Source: Boston Dynamics CES 2026 announcement: tens of thousands of Atlas units to deploy at Hyundai facilities; Hyundai $26B US manufacturing inc. 30K bot/yr robotics factoryconf 95%
    Notes: Establishes baseline humanoid capability — auto assembly, NOT rocket assembly.
  2. 2026-06-01 → 2027-12-31pendingTesla Optimus V3 reaches 1M unit annual production
    How: Tesla discloses Optimus production rate or annualized run rate of 1M units/year, with deployment in Tesla manufacturing tasks
    Source: Tesla Q2 2026 plans repurpose Fremont assembly lines for Optimus; Optimus V3 1M-unit annual targetconf 40%
  3. 2026-06-01 → 2028-12-31pendingSpaceX Starfactory 1000-Starships/yr target validates auto-only path
    How: SpaceX achieves >=200 Starships/yr build rate using Mechazilla + Raptor 24/7 robotic production, but humanoid robots are NOT used in airframe assembly
    Source: SpaceX Starbase Starfactory: robotic Raptor production 24/7, target 1000 Starships/yr; Mechazilla handles stacking/heat-shield positioning, not humanoid robotsconf 85%
    Notes: Confirms Schmidt's claim — SpaceX uses purpose-built robotics (Mechazilla, automated welding) NOT humanoids for rocket assembly. Humanoid suitability gap remains.
  4. 2027-01-01 → 2029-12-31pendingFirst public benchmark test of humanoid in aerospace tooling task
    How: Humanoid robot (any maker) demonstrates fastener torquing, harness routing, or composite layup task on aerospace-grade hardware in published benchmark or factory pilot
    Source: Aerospace Industries Association reporting; Boeing/Lockheed/SpaceX manufacturing automation announcementsconf 40%
    Notes: Aerospace tasks (fasteners with calibrated torque, harness routing, FOD-free) are 1-2 orders harder than auto assembly.
  5. 2030-01-01 → 2035-12-31pendingHumanoid robot performs full rocket sub-assembly task autonomously
    How: Humanoid robot (any maker) autonomously completes a multi-step rocket sub-assembly task (engine integration, tank welding, harness routing) in a flight-rated manufacturing context
    Source: Industry projection consistent with Schmidt 'eventually' framingconf 20%
    Notes: Cascade — would resolve prediction as MISS only well past horizon.

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Evidence chain

Every probability update with full Bayesian provenance — chronological, latest first
LBP2026-05-10T02:00:02Z27.9%+1.6pp
Network propagation: 26.4% → 27.9%
6-iter LBP, residual 0.00584 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v3 · run e5c18d29
LBP2026-05-03T02:00:01Z26.4%+2.3pp
Network propagation: 24.1% → 26.4%
6-iter LBP, residual 0.00677 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v3 · run 1a683ac9
LBP2026-04-30T16:39:51Z24.1%+4.5pp
Network propagation: 19.5% → 24.1%
5-iter LBP, residual 0.00825 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v2 · run 0c8a4ea3
legacy v12026-04-30T16:13:50Z19.5%-4.9pp
reference_class_assigned bayesian_v2 inside=0.600 blend=0.195 w_in=0.30 humanoid_commercial_volume
LBP2026-04-30T02:18:57Z24.4%+4.9pp
Network propagation: 19.5% → 24.4%
5-iter LBP, residual 0.00825 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v1 · run 592311ef
legacy v12026-04-30T01:56:50Z19.5%-40.5pp
reference_class_assigned bayesian_v2 inside=0.600 blend=0.195 w_in=0.30 humanoid_commercial_volume

Network propagation neighbors

Top edges sorted by latest LBP cross-impact
All propagation →

Top incoming (parents)

Edges that influence THIS node's belief

KindNodeTheir probP(c|s=T)P(c|s=F)Δ implied
killerTK08
Humanoid Capital Collapse (Figure/Apptronik Flop)
22.0%0.0500.600+0.200
prereqSEM_008
Training runs costing $10 billion for a single model will coDario Amodei
76.9%0.6000.050+0.189
prereqSEM_012
Nvidia quadrupled chip production output while only doublingJensen Huang
75.0%0.6000.050+0.179
prereq235_002
Anthropic will exceed OpenAI in revenue this year (2026).Dave Blundin
74.6%0.6000.050+0.176
prereqSEM_005
Stargate is a $500 billion multiyear capex program for distrSam Altman
72.3%0.6000.050+0.140

Top outgoing (children)

Predictions THIS node influences

KindNodeTheir probP(c|s=T)P(c|s=F)Δ implied
prereq247_044
Humanoid robots have 5-10 year lifespan before merging with Mark Cuban
28.0%0.4500.050-0.116
prereq229_010
Eventually there will be tens of billions of humanoids on plBrett Adcock
25.8%0.5000.050-0.081
prereq234_033
David Holz predicts 5 million humanoids can build Manhattan David Holz
23.3%0.5000.050-0.055

Ticker exposure

29 ticker(s) linked

Beneficiaries (24)

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Adverse (5)

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Prerequisites (36)

Predictions that must hit first
TypePredTitleDomainLag
prereq229_002Figure will scale out robots in industrial/commercial workforce in 2026 via its signed customers.Robotics
prereqSEM_008Training runs costing $10 billion for a single model will commence sometime in 2025.AI
prereq234_012Anthropic revenue will cross OpenAI revenue in middle of 2026Markets/Stocks
prereq235_002Anthropic will exceed OpenAI in revenue this year (2026).AI
prereq229_001Figure will put robots on its own manufacturing lines (BotQ) this year to build robots.Robotics
prereqSEM_012Nvidia quadrupled chip production output while only doubling human headcount — achieved by deploying AI coding tools (Cursor, Claude Code) across engineering.AI/Manufacturing
prereqSEM_005Stargate is a $500 billion multiyear capex program for distributed AI data-center construction (2025-2028, with Trump administration partnership).AI/Infrastructure
prereq235_019Fast food chains will bring in humanoid robots very shortly to replace workers.Robotics
prereq239_033Optimus 3 will be by far the most advanced robot in the worldRobotics
prereq241_056Elon Musk-style vertical integration is necessary to drive robotics costs downRobotics
prereq240_037Amazon Zoox Robotaxi will launch in LA in 2027Auto/Transport
prereq247_0451X Neo humanoid robot will be delivered this summer 2026Robotics
prereq238_016Figure CEO Brett Adcock will appear at Abundance Summit next year (2027) with a Figure robot for PeterRobotics
prereq241_027China will win low-end robotic hardware raceRobotics
prereq243_003By 2029, Uber will facilitate more autonomous/robotaxi rides than anyone else in the worldAuto/Transport
prereq248_020Jevons paradox: bandwidth demand will explode as 10 billion robots and AVs need connectivity.Robotics
prereq229_022Figure plans to launch an alpha in-home test robot (in Adcock's home) doing end-to-end home work during 2026.Robotics
prereq238_015Brent Bornick/1X to ship Peter a humanoid robot this summer (2026)Robotics
prereq239_011Optimus 3 production starts summer 2026Robotics
prereq241_061China robots will compete as replacement for dogs / low-cost consumer use (now; useful later)Robotics
prereq229_008By end of 2026, Figure's robot hardware will be capable of performing what surgeons can do (teleoperated).Biotech/Longevity
prereq239_012Optimus reaches high volume production by summer 2027Robotics
prereq248_042A sewing robot already exists; logistics robots will automate trillion-dollar stitching industry.Robotics
prereq248_045Another humanoid species will emerge at some future point beyond homo sapiens.Biotech/Longevity
prereq248_038We will see humanoid robot threats alongside the current Sam Altman backlash.Robotics
prereq229_020By end of 2026, Figure will be able to drop a robot into an unseen home and do fairly long-horizon work.Robotics
prereq229_034Robot production cadence target: one robot every ~30 minutes in the near term.Robotics
prereq247_043Humanoid robots will be utterly transformative for 2/3 of US services sectorRobotics
prereq229_030If Figure solved a general-purpose humanoid today, they could ship a billion robots today (demand exists).Robotics
prereq229_023First Figure robot in a customer's home expected 2027-2029 timeframe.Robotics
prereq229_021In 2027, Figure will be on the path to ship robots into users' homes and iterate.Robotics
prereq229_009Within roughly 24 months, robots will build robots on Figure's lines.Robotics
prereq239_013Tesla will release an improved Optimus design every yearRobotics
prereq235_020Transition to VLA humanoid robots taking over fast food jobs in 2-3 years.Robotics
correlateS_HUMANOID_MASS_2033Humanoid R4: 10M+ cumulative by Dec 2033humanoid_deployment
killerTK08Humanoid Capital Collapse (Figure/Apptronik Flop)

Dependents (3)

Predictions enabled by this
TypePredTitleDomainLag
prereq229_010Eventually there will be tens of billions of humanoids on planet Earth—one per human plus 5-10B in commercial workforce.Robotics
prereq234_033David Holz predicts 5 million humanoids can build Manhattan in 6 monthsRobotics
prereq247_044Humanoid robots have 5-10 year lifespan before merging with environmentsRobotics

Expected milestones (1)

From Sheet 17 Monitoring Triggers
Expected byDescriptionStatus
2030-06-30[Robotics 2030-06] in first-class physical embodiment as r [241_029] Figure 03 shipment volume; BMW, 2nd customer deployment countpending

Linked documents (4)

Auto-generated by cosine similarity from Polymarket / Manifold / EDGAR / GDELT
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0.636github_releasefacebookresearch/habitat-sim v0.2.0mentionspending2021-06-30
0.591polymarketWill the Houston Rockets win the 2026 NBA Finals?0%mentionspending2025-06-19
0.566manifoldWill New Glenn 7x2 ever fly again?94%mentionspending2026-05-29
0.547arxivJordan Frame in Supergravity and Cosmologymentionspending2026-05-05

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