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Optimus 3 production starts summer 2026

Predictor: Elon Musk · ep#239 "Elon Musk: The Economy Will Be 10x the Size in 10 Years | #239" · source

Prior probability
55.0%
Current probability
22.5%
evolves via intake + LBP
Conviction
4/5
Signal quality
B
Resolution
pending
Window
2026-07-01 – 2026-07-31
Edges in / out
14 / 5
Tickers exposed
23

Prediction text

Optimus 3 production starts summer 2026 | I think we'll start production on Optimus 3 this summer. Um but but very slow at first.

Watch events: Tesla Q2 2026 earnings; Optimus Fremont line start; unit cost disclosure

Verbatim quote

From episode "Elon Musk: The Economy Will Be 10x the Size in 10 Years | #239"
I think we'll start production on Optimus 3 this summer. Um but but very slow at first.

Predictor: Elon Musk

κ + Brier as of 2026-05-22
κ (discount)
0.688
Brier
0.0142
excellent
Hits / Misses
1 / 0
of 3 resolved
Hit rate
33.3%
Calibration plot (stated vs observed)

Evidence about this node from Elon Musk is multiplied by κ in /api/intake. Lower κ = less weight; floors at 0.10 (effectively silenced) and caps at 1.00 (full weight).

Reference class

Not linked

This node isn't linked to a reference class. The Bayesian update applies without outside-view blending.

Probability over time

5 prob_history rows
0%25%50%75%100%prior 55%2026-04-302026-05-032026-05-30
intake v2milestone miss sweeplbp propagationreference class assignedlegacy v1prior_prob (analyst seed)current = 22.5%

Milestone chain

Pre-event signals (upstream prereqs + window checkpoints) → resolution event → downstream cascades. Status/dates update from linked nodes; re-derive nightly via scripts/ops/derive_milestones.py.
Leading chain: 1 fired ✓ · 1 overdue ⏱ · 5 pending
  1. 2026-05-01 → 2026-07-31pendingOptimus V3 prototype publicly revealed by Tesla
    How: Tesla publicly unveils Optimus V3 hardware (live demo, video reveal, or formal press event) before production start date
    Source: https://www.basenor.com/blogs/news/tesla-optimus-v3-reveal-set-for-late-july-what-we-know — Optimus V3 reveal scheduled for late July 2026conf 85%
  2. 2026-05-01 → 2026-09-30pendingMusk delays or pushes back production timeline (risk milestone)
    How: Tesla publicly delays Optimus V3 production start past Q3 2026 in any official communication; would be tracked as MISS-direction
    Source: https://www.teslarati.com/elon-musk-announces-disappointing-tesla-optimus-update/ — disappointing Optimus update reportedconf 45%
  3. 2026-06-01 → 2026-09-30pendingTesla AI5 chip (with ~5x memory bandwidth vs Gen 2) integrated into Optimus 3
    How: Tesla confirms via spec sheet or earnings call that Optimus 3 ships with AI5 chip and Grok voice integration
    Source: https://www.greendrive-accessories.com/blog/language/en/tesla-optimus-3-robot-humanoide-2026-2/ — Optimus 3 spec confirmationconf 75%
  4. 2026-07-01 → 2026-09-30pendingOptimus 3 production line begins low-rate manufacturing at Fremont factory
    How: Tesla publicly confirms Optimus V3 production has commenced (via Musk earnings call statement, Tesla X/Twitter post, or factory tour); first units rolling off line
    Source: https://www.tesery.com/blogs/news/elon-musk-reveals-aggressive-production-timeline-for-tesla-optimus-3 — Musk announces summer 2026 production startconf 70%
  5. 2026-09-01 → 2026-12-31pendingInitial 2026 production volume reaches several hundred units (S-curve start)
    How: Tesla discloses cumulative Optimus 3 production of at least 200 units by end of 2026 in earnings disclosure or shareholder letter
    Source: https://newmarketpitch.com/blogs/news/humanoid-robotics-optimus-deployment-tracker — Tesla expected to produce few hundred units in 2026conf 50%

What if this resolves?

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(live posterior: 22%)

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Evidence chain

Every probability update with full Bayesian provenance — chronological, latest first
metadata_milestone_miss_sweep2026-05-30T22:15:00Z22.5%-9.4pp
metadata_milestone_miss_sweep bayesian_v2 n=1 inside=0.225 blend=0.225 LLR=-0.477 κ=0.69 no_blend
Raw metadata
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LBP2026-05-10T02:00:02Z31.8%-1.4pp
Network propagation: 33.2% → 31.8%
6-iter LBP, residual 0.00584 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v3 · run e5c18d29
LBP2026-05-03T02:00:01Z33.2%-2.3pp
Network propagation: 35.5% → 33.2%
6-iter LBP, residual 0.00677 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v3 · run 1a683ac9
LBP2026-04-30T16:39:51Z35.5%-6.5pp
Network propagation: 42.0% → 35.5%
5-iter LBP, residual 0.00825 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v2 · run 0c8a4ea3
LBP2026-04-30T02:18:57Z42.0%-13.0pp
Network propagation: 55.0% → 42.0%
5-iter LBP, residual 0.00825 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v1 · run 592311ef

Network propagation neighbors

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All propagation →

Top incoming (parents)

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If Figure solved a general-purpose humanoid today, they coulBrett Adcock
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42.1%0.5500.050+0.039

Top outgoing (children)

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prereq247_043
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26.2%0.5000.050-0.097
prereq241_029
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23.5%0.6500.050-0.032

Ticker exposure

23 ticker(s) linked

Beneficiaries (23)

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Prerequisites (14)

Predictions that must hit first
TypePredTitleDomainLag
prereq247_042Professional Robotics League first US match on April 19, 2026 in BostonRobotics
prereq241_056Elon Musk-style vertical integration is necessary to drive robotics costs downRobotics
prereq248_020Jevons paradox: bandwidth demand will explode as 10 billion robots and AVs need connectivity.Robotics
prereq241_027China will win low-end robotic hardware raceRobotics
prereq229_033Figure will deploy robots into its new 'Grid' facility to run 24/7 starting this month with Figure 3s.Robotics
prereq238_015Brent Bornick/1X to ship Peter a humanoid robot this summer (2026)Robotics
prereq248_042A sewing robot already exists; logistics robots will automate trillion-dollar stitching industry.Robotics
prereq229_030If Figure solved a general-purpose humanoid today, they could ship a billion robots today (demand exists).Robotics
prereq229_034Robot production cadence target: one robot every ~30 minutes in the near term.Robotics
prereq248_045Another humanoid species will emerge at some future point beyond homo sapiens.Biotech/Longevity
prereq248_038We will see humanoid robot threats alongside the current Sam Altman backlash.Robotics
prereqSEM_041At least 100,000 personal AI robots will be preordered in 2025 (driven by speech/vision/dexterity advances).Robotics
correlateS_HUMANOID_FACTORY_2026Humanoid R1: 10K+ factory units by Nov 2026humanoid_deployment
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TypePredTitleDomainLag
prereq235_019Fast food chains will bring in humanoid robots very shortly to replace workers.Robotics
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prereq241_029Humanoid robot assembly of rockets is beyond current robots for a long timeRobotics
prereq247_043Humanoid robots will be utterly transformative for 2/3 of US services sectorRobotics
prereq236_021Optimus/humanoid robots to do trades work in 3 to 8 years (Elon's vision)Robotics

Expected milestones (1)

From Sheet 17 Monitoring Triggers
Expected byDescriptionStatus
2026-07-31[Robotics 2026-07] [239_011] Tesla Q2 2026 earnings; Optimus Fremont line start; unit cost disclosure [238_015] Figure 03 shipment volume; BMW, 2nd customer deployment countpending

Linked documents (1)

Auto-generated by cosine similarity from Polymarket / Manifold / EDGAR / GDELT
SimSourceTitleMarket probPolarityReviewedPublished
0.552manifoldWill July 2026 in Boston be one of the 5 warmest July's ever?66%mentionspending2026-06-05

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