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Cost of lidar and cameras will continue coming down, making new cars autonomous-ready within 10 years

Predictor: Dara Khosrowshahi · ep#243 "Uber vs. Tesla, Robotaxi Timelines, and the End of Human Driving | Uber CEO Dara Khosrowshahi | #243" · source

Prior probability
60.0%
Current probability
41.6%
evolves via intake + LBP
Conviction
4/5
Signal quality
C
Resolution
pending
Window
2036-01-01 – 2036-11-30
Edges in / out
20 / 2
Tickers exposed
31

Prediction text

Cost of lidar and cameras will continue coming down, making new cars autonomous-ready within 10 years | the cost of lidar is really coming down. Cost of cameras are coming down. So, within 10 years every new car is going to be autonomous ready.

Watch events: Waymo 1M rides/wk (end-2026); Tesla Robotaxi scaling; NHTSA AV rules

Verbatim quote

From episode "Uber vs. Tesla, Robotaxi Timelines, and the End of Human Driving | Uber CEO Dara Khosrowshahi | #243"
the cost of lidar is really coming down. Cost of cameras are coming down. So, within 10 years every new car is going to be autonomous ready.

Predictor: Dara Khosrowshahi

κ + Brier as of 2026-05-22
κ (discount)
0.688
Brier
0.0105
excellent
Hits / Misses
2 / 0
of 3 resolved
Hit rate
66.7%
Calibration plot (stated vs observed)

Evidence about this node from Dara Khosrowshahi is multiplied by κ in /api/intake. Lower κ = less weight; floors at 0.10 (effectively silenced) and caps at 1.00 (full weight).

Reference class

Not linked

This node isn't linked to a reference class. The Bayesian update applies without outside-view blending.

Probability over time

5 prob_history rows
0%25%50%75%100%prior 60%2026-04-302026-05-032026-05-17
intake v2milestone miss sweeplbp propagationreference class assignedlegacy v1prior_prob (analyst seed)current = 41.6%

Milestone chain

Pre-event signals (upstream prereqs + window checkpoints) → resolution event → downstream cascades. Status/dates update from linked nodes; re-derive nightly via scripts/ops/derive_milestones.py.
Leading chain: 4 fired ✓ · 9 pending
  1. 2026-06-01 → 2028-12-31pendingAutomotive LiDAR unit price reaches sub-$500 mass production
    How: Tier-1 supplier (Luminar, Hesai, Innoviz, Valeo) ships >=1M units of automotive LiDAR at <=$500 ASP per unit, confirmed in 10-Q/annual filings
    Source: Luminar Halo $500 by 2026, Hesai/Chinese cost cutsconf 65%
  2. 2028-06-01 → 2030-12-31pendingAutomotive LiDAR unit price falls to $250 in mass production
    How: Tier-1 supplier 10-Q/IR disclosure shows automotive-grade LiDAR ASP <=$250/unit at >=1M annual volume; analyst consensus (Yole, Mordor, McKinsey) confirms
    Source: Industry forecast $250 LiDAR by 2028 post-mass productionconf 50%
  3. 2029-06-01 → 2031-12-31pendingAutomotive LiDAR market crosses $5B annual revenue (ADAS adoption proxy)
    How: Mordor Intelligence / MarketsandMarkets / Yole report confirms global automotive LiDAR market revenue >=$5.0B/year
    Source: Mordor: $1.23B (2025) -> $5.31B by 2030 at 33.96% CAGRconf 65%
  4. 2030-01-01 → 2034-12-31pendingL3+ autonomous-ready hardware standard in >=50% of new vehicle models in major OEM lineup
    How: Top-10 global OEM (by units) discloses >=50% of new model launches include L3-or-higher hardware suite (LiDAR + camera + radar + compute) as standard or no-cost option
    Source: China cost-cut acceleration + sub-$25K vehicle barrier breakingconf 50%
  5. 2034-01-01 → 2038-12-31pending100% of new car models from top-10 OEMs ship autonomous-ready sensor suite (event anchor proxy)
    How: JD Power / S&P Global Mobility audit confirms 100% of new model launches across top-10 global OEMs include factory-installed L3+ sensor suite (LiDAR or equivalent + 360-degree camera + radar)
    Source: Realization of Diamandis '10-year' thesisconf 30%

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Evidence chain

Every probability update with full Bayesian provenance — chronological, latest first
LBP2026-05-17T02:00:01Z41.6%-1.2pp
Network propagation: 42.8% → 41.6%
5-iter LBP, residual 0.00689 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v3 · run e607fa96
LBP2026-05-10T02:00:02Z42.8%-2.0pp
Network propagation: 44.8% → 42.8%
6-iter LBP, residual 0.00584 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v3 · run e5c18d29
LBP2026-05-03T02:00:01Z44.8%-3.1pp
Network propagation: 48.0% → 44.8%
6-iter LBP, residual 0.00677 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v3 · run 1a683ac9
LBP2026-04-30T16:39:51Z48.0%-4.3pp
Network propagation: 52.3% → 48.0%
5-iter LBP, residual 0.00825 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v2 · run 0c8a4ea3
LBP2026-04-30T02:18:57Z52.3%-7.7pp
Network propagation: 60.0% → 52.3%
5-iter LBP, residual 0.00825 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v1 · run 592311ef

Network propagation neighbors

Top edges sorted by latest LBP cross-impact
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Top incoming (parents)

Edges that influence THIS node's belief

KindNodeTheir probP(c|s=T)P(c|s=F)Δ implied
prereq243_037
Drivers will be able to transition to becoming fleet managerDara Khosrowshahi
39.3%0.6000.050-0.153
killerTK06
China-Taiwan Military Conflict
8.0%0.0500.600+0.140
prereq243_038
Capital assets (cars) will at some point replace some labor Dara Khosrowshahi
43.5%0.6000.050-0.130
killerTK11
Autonomous Regulatory Block (Level 4 Halt)
10.0%0.0500.600+0.129
prereq244_017
Ilia (age 13) will still want a driver's license in 3 years Dara Khosrowshahi
45.3%0.6000.050-0.121

Top outgoing (children)

Predictions THIS node influences

KindNodeTheir probP(c|s=T)P(c|s=F)Δ implied
prereq244_002
Humans will be demonstrably less safe than autonomous driverDara Khosrowshahi
37.6%0.6000.050-0.101
prereq230_020
Peter's 14-year-old son Milan will never get a driver's licePeter Diamandis
34.7%0.6500.050-0.052

Ticker exposure

31 ticker(s) linked

Beneficiaries (24)

INVZWRDLIDRAEVAMBLYPONYOUSTVRRMAMBAAURAIOTHSAIMBGAFBIDUBMWYYGMGOOGLHMCIOTQCOMTMTSLAUBERVWAGY

Adverse (5)

MCYALLCINFPGRTRV

Prerequisites (20)

Predictions that must hit first
TypePredTitleDomainLag
prereqSEM_008Training runs costing $10 billion for a single model will commence sometime in 2025.AI
prereq234_012Anthropic revenue will cross OpenAI revenue in middle of 2026Markets/Stocks
prereq242_015Full autonomy achieved within 2 years before Salim's son gets driver's licenseAuto/Transport
prereq244_019Peter's son won't need a driver's license in 2 yearsAuto/Transport
prereqSEM_012Nvidia quadrupled chip production output while only doubling human headcount — achieved by deploying AI coding tools (Cursor, Claude Code) across engineering.AI/Manufacturing
prereqSEM_005Stargate is a $500 billion multiyear capex program for distributed AI data-center construction (2025-2028, with Trump administration partnership).AI/Infrastructure
prereq244_020Need for driver's licenses is going to collapse over the next few yearsAuto/Transport
prereq246_039Autonomous vehicles/flying cars coming by 2028.Auto/Transport
prereq243_031Uber will have significantly more drivers in 2030 than today, including in USLabor/Jobs
prereq230_018In 5 years, 70-80% of cars will be autonomous, especially hooked up to your AI.Auto/Transport
prereq244_031Uber's network will move to EVs as autonomous becomes bigger realityEnergy
prereq243_038Capital assets (cars) will at some point replace some labor (drivers)Labor/Jobs
prereq243_037Drivers will be able to transition to becoming fleet managers/owners of autonomous vehiclesLabor/Jobs
prereq244_017Ilia (age 13) will still want a driver's license in 3 years due to slow AV mass productionAuto/Transport
correlateS_ROBOTAXI_NATIONWIDE_2028Robotaxi nationwide expansion by Nov 2028robotaxi_deployment
correlateS_ROBOTAXI_TESLA_2026Tesla FSD unsupervised wide deployment by Nov 2026robotaxi_deployment
correlateS_ROBOTAXI_MASS_2030Robotaxi >10% urban miles by Nov 2030robotaxi_deployment
correlateS_ROBOTAXI_DELAYEDRobotaxi mass deployment delayed past 2031robotaxi_deployment
killerTK11Autonomous Regulatory Block (Level 4 Halt)
killerTK06China-Taiwan Military Conflict

Dependents (2)

Predictions enabled by this
TypePredTitleDomainLag
prereq230_020Peter's 14-year-old son Milan will never get a driver's license.Auto/Transport
prereq244_002Humans will be demonstrably less safe than autonomous drivers (within 25 years, not 15)Auto/Transport

Raw metadata

From Thesis_Timeline_v1.0_FINAL workbook
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