Some form of 'capitalism 2.0' or post-scarcity capitalism will emerge eventually
Predictor: Alex Wissner-Gross · ep#247 "Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI's $852B Valuation EP #247" · source
Prediction text
Some form of 'capitalism 2.0' or post-scarcity capitalism will emerge eventually | I do think some form of call it abundant capitalism or capitalism 2.0 or post scarce capitalism something like that probably emerges. It may not happen immediately. It may not happen as quickly in this country but it will get there eventually.
Verbatim quote
I do think some form of call it abundant capitalism or capitalism 2.0 or post scarce capitalism something like that probably emerges. It may not happen immediately. It may not happen as quickly in this country but it will get there eventually.
Predictor: Alex Wissner-Gross
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Milestone chain
- 2026-06-01 → 2027-09-30pendingLeading AI lab (OpenAI/Anthropic/Google) publicly proposes Universal Basic Compute mechanismHow: Public proposal, blog post, or congressional testimony from a frontier-lab CEO outlining a per-capita compute-quota or AI-dividend distribution modelSource: First Movers post-AGI UBI analysis; Musk UHI conceptconf 55%
- 2026-09-01 → 2027-12-31pendingMajor economic body (IMF/OECD/WEF) publishes formal 'post-scarcity' or 'capitalism 2.0' frameworkHow: Top-tier multilateral institution issues paper using terms 'post-scarcity', 'capitalism 2.0', 'post-labor economy', or 'Universal Basic Compute' with concrete policy menuSource: World Bank WDR 2026 AI for Development; Tax Project Universal High Income explainerconf 55%
- 2026-09-01 → 2027-12-31pendingUS/EU congressional hearing dedicated to post-AI economic structureHow: Hearing in US Congress (Senate Finance or Joint Economic Committee) or EU Parliament with title containing 'post-AI economy', 'AI dividend', or 'capitalism reform'Source: Tax Project Institute Universal High Income framingconf 45%
- 2026-09-01 → 2028-06-30pendingFirst national pilot of UBI/UBC explicitly tied to AI productivity dividendsHow: National-level (not city) pilot launched with stated funding mechanism = AI/automation tax, public-equity dividend, or compute quota; tracked via BIEN newsletter + government PRsSource: BIEN 'AI job loss UBI Taiwan recipient one year' April 2026conf 50%
- 2027-12-31pendingIf by end-2027 no national-level pilot has launched, 'will emerge' becomes unrealistic by window closeHow: Zero national pilots tied to AI-productivity funding by 2027-12-31 leaves <13 months to window close, making meaningful 'emergence' improbableSource: Window-close logic: prediction target 2028-12-31conf 60%
- 2027-09-01 → 2028-11-30pendingMainstream presidential-tier candidate adopts post-scarcity platform plankHow: Major-party presidential primary candidate (US 2028) or G7 head-of-state campaign explicitly adopts post-scarcity / AI-dividend / UBC policySource: Tax Project + Wikipedia UBI political-momentum trackingconf 40%
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Top incoming (parents)
Edges that influence THIS node's belief
| Kind | Node | Their prob | P(c|s=T) | P(c|s=F) | Δ implied |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| prereq | S_RECESSION_2028 NBER recession declared 2028 | 30.0% | 0.450 | 0.050 | -0.184 |
| killer | TK03 AI Regulatory Moratorium (EU/US Capability Freeze) | 10.0% | 0.050 | 0.450 | +0.056 |
| killer | TK01 AGI Capability Plateau (2026-27 Training Stall) | 15.0% | 0.050 | 0.450 | +0.036 |
| killer | TK14 Superbubble Pop (S&P 500 -40%, Moonshot Capital Evaporates) | 20.0% | 0.050 | 0.450 | +0.016 |
| prereq | SEM_042 2025 will be the definitive year that agentic systems finall — Kevin Weil | 73.8% | 0.450 | 0.050 | -0.013 |
Top outgoing (children)
Predictions THIS node influences
| Kind | Node | Their prob | P(c|s=T) | P(c|s=F) | Δ implied |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| prereq | 235_030 Ray Kurzweil predicts Longevity Escape Velocity (LEV) by 203 — Ray Kurzweil | 39.2% | 0.750 | 0.050 | -0.101 |
| prereq | 246_016 Dragonfly nuclear-powered octicopter arrives at Titan in 203 — Peter Diamandis | 35.6% | 0.650 | 0.050 | -0.100 |
| prereq | 240_036 TEPCO's restarted reactor will support 20% of Japan's electr — Peter Diamandis | 34.3% | 0.650 | 0.050 | -0.086 |
| prereq | 239_008 Moon base will exist in 10 years — Elon Musk | 28.8% | 0.550 | 0.050 | -0.066 |
| prereq | SEM_034 True artificial general intelligence will be achieved betwee — Demis Hassabis | 28.7% | 0.550 | 0.050 | -0.065 |
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Beneficiaries (23)
Adverse (6)
Prerequisites (9)
| Type | Pred | Title | Domain | Lag |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| prereq | 235_038 | David Sinclair begins partial epigenetic reprogramming trials with Life Biosciences in March 2026. | Biotech/Longevity | — |
| prereq | SEM_008 | Training runs costing $10 billion for a single model will commence sometime in 2025. | AI | — |
| prereq | 238_009 | Recursive self-improvement is already happening now (no longer three years out) | AI | — |
| prereq | SEM_012 | Nvidia quadrupled chip production output while only doubling human headcount — achieved by deploying AI coding tools (Cursor, Claude Code) across engineering. | AI/Manufacturing | — |
| prereq | SEM_042 | 2025 will be the definitive year that agentic systems finally hit the mainstream. | AI/Agents | — |
| prereq | S_RECESSION_2028 | NBER recession declared 2028 | macro_recession | — |
| killer | TK14 | Superbubble Pop (S&P 500 -40%, Moonshot Capital Evaporates) | — | — |
| killer | TK01 | AGI Capability Plateau (2026-27 Training Stall) | — | — |
| killer | TK03 | AI Regulatory Moratorium (EU/US Capability Freeze) | — | — |
Dependents (5)
| Type | Pred | Title | Domain | Lag |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| prereq | 235_030 | Ray Kurzweil predicts Longevity Escape Velocity (LEV) by 2033. | Biotech/Longevity | — |
| prereq | 246_016 | Dragonfly nuclear-powered octicopter arrives at Titan in 2034. | Space | — |
| prereq | 240_036 | TEPCO's restarted reactor will support 20% of Japan's electric needs by 2040 | Energy | — |
| prereq | SEM_034 | True artificial general intelligence will be achieved between 2032 and 2042 — 'first we solve AI, then use AI to solve everything else'. | AI/AGI | — |
| prereq | 239_008 | Moon base will exist in 10 years | Space | — |
Raw metadata
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