Deepseek-style hyperdeflation moments from algorithmic innovation will become more frequent but less effective at causing price swings.
Predictor: Alex Wissner-Gross · ep#248 "Sam Altman's Attack, Amazon vs. Starlink, and What Opus 4.7 Actually Means | #248" · source
Prediction text
Deepseek-style hyperdeflation moments from algorithmic innovation will become more frequent but less effective at causing price swings. | These are becoming more frequent and they're also becoming less effective at causing price swings... I think we're going to see stories like this more and more frequently with just shocking advances in in algorithmic efficiency that are predicted to to disrupt the entire economy and actually do the exact opposite.
Verbatim quote
These are becoming more frequent and they're also becoming less effective at causing price swings... I think we're going to see stories like this more and more frequently with just shocking advances in in algorithmic efficiency that are predicted to to disrupt the entire economy and actually do the exact opposite.
Predictor: Alex Wissner-Gross
Calibration plot (stated vs observed)
Evidence about this node from Alex Wissner-Gross is multiplied by κ in /api/intake. Lower κ = less weight; floors at 0.10 (effectively silenced) and caps at 1.00 (full weight).
Reference class
This node isn't linked to a reference class. The Bayesian update applies without outside-view blending.
Probability over time
Milestone chain
- 2025-01-27hitDeepSeek R1 January 2025 release triggers $300B+ single-day market moveHow: Crypto and equity markets sell off >$300B in single day on DeepSeek R1 efficiency revelationSource: https://markets.financialcontent.com/stocks/article/breakingcrypto-2026-1-12-the-deepseek-shock-how-ai-efficiency-shattered-the-crypto-market-in-2025conf 99%Notes: HIT — first DeepSeek shock had massive single-day market impact, anchoring the baseline.
- 2025-10-31hitNVIDIA reaches $5T market cap despite efficiency narrativeHow: NVIDIA crosses $5 trillion market capitalization, demonstrating that efficiency announcements have not durably destroyed compute demand premiumSource: Public market data — NVIDIA hit $5T in October 2025conf 99%Notes: HIT — NVIDIA hit $5T cap in October 2025, validating the bull-thesis recovery and weakening 'efficiency reduces compute demand' narrative.
- 2026-01-06hitSubsequent DeepSeek-style efficiency announcements fail to repeat the January 2025 selloffHow: Major financial press (CNBC, Bloomberg) explicitly reports that subsequent DeepSeek announcements did not produce repeat investor frenzy or comparable market dislocationSource: https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/06/why-deepseek-didnt-cause-an-investor-frenzy-again-in-2025.htmlconf 99%Notes: HIT — CNBC explicitly confirms market desensitization to DeepSeek-style announcements, directly validating Wissner-Gross's claim that price-swing magnitude diminishes.
- 2026-01-01 → 2026-12-31pendingFrequency of algorithmic-efficiency announcements rises (≥5 named events/year)How: Industry tracking shows ≥5 distinct major algorithmic-efficiency announcements in 2026 from labs (Chinese open-source, US labs, etc.) cited by major financial press as 'DeepSeek moments'Source: Industry analyst reports, Bloomberg / Reuters AI deskconf 65%Notes: Frequency rising directly supports Wissner-Gross's 'more frequent' framing.
- 2026-04-01 → 2026-12-31pendingSingle-day market reaction to a 2026 algorithmic-efficiency announcement is <50% of January 2025 magnitudeHow: When a major DeepSeek-style announcement lands in 2026, AI stock complex single-day reaction is less than half the magnitude of the January 27 2025 reaction (≤$150B move)Source: Bloomberg / Reuters market dataconf 70%Notes: Directly tests 'less effective at causing price swings'. Confidence high because pattern already visible in 2025-2026 reactions.
What if this resolves?
Click a button to clamp this prediction and run a Gibbs sample. Returns the predictions whose marginals shift most. ~30s per run; ideal for stress-testing "if X resolves, what else moves?"
Evidence chain
Network propagation neighbors
Top incoming (parents)
Edges that influence THIS node's belief
| Kind | Node | Their prob | P(c|s=T) | P(c|s=F) | Δ implied |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| prereq | SEM_042 2025 will be the definitive year that agentic systems finall — Kevin Weil | 73.8% | 0.500 | 0.050 | -0.046 |
| prereq | 235_038 David Sinclair begins partial epigenetic reprogramming trial — Peter Diamandis | 74.0% | 0.500 | 0.050 | -0.043 |
| prereq | SEM_012 Nvidia quadrupled chip production output while only doubling — Jensen Huang | 75.0% | 0.500 | 0.050 | -0.039 |
| killer | TK03 AI Regulatory Moratorium (EU/US Capability Freeze) | 10.0% | 0.050 | 0.500 | +0.032 |
| prereq | SEM_008 Training runs costing $10 billion for a single model will co — Dario Amodei | 76.9% | 0.500 | 0.050 | -0.031 |
Top outgoing (children)
Predictions THIS node influences
| Kind | Node | Their prob | P(c|s=T) | P(c|s=F) | Δ implied |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| prereq | 246_016 Dragonfly nuclear-powered octicopter arrives at Titan in 203 — Peter Diamandis | 35.6% | 0.650 | 0.050 | -0.056 |
| prereq | 235_030 Ray Kurzweil predicts Longevity Escape Velocity (LEV) by 203 — Ray Kurzweil | 39.2% | 0.750 | 0.050 | -0.050 |
| prereq | 240_036 TEPCO's restarted reactor will support 20% of Japan's electr — Peter Diamandis | 34.3% | 0.650 | 0.050 | -0.042 |
| prereq | 239_008 Moon base will exist in 10 years — Elon Musk | 28.8% | 0.550 | 0.050 | -0.029 |
| prereq | SEM_034 True artificial general intelligence will be achieved betwee — Demis Hassabis | 28.7% | 0.550 | 0.050 | -0.028 |
Ticker exposure
Beneficiaries (23)
Adverse (6)
Prerequisites (8)
| Type | Pred | Title | Domain | Lag |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| prereq | 238_009 | Recursive self-improvement is already happening now (no longer three years out) | AI | — |
| prereq | 235_038 | David Sinclair begins partial epigenetic reprogramming trials with Life Biosciences in March 2026. | Biotech/Longevity | — |
| prereq | SEM_008 | Training runs costing $10 billion for a single model will commence sometime in 2025. | AI | — |
| prereq | SEM_012 | Nvidia quadrupled chip production output while only doubling human headcount — achieved by deploying AI coding tools (Cursor, Claude Code) across engineering. | AI/Manufacturing | — |
| prereq | SEM_042 | 2025 will be the definitive year that agentic systems finally hit the mainstream. | AI/Agents | — |
| killer | TK14 | Superbubble Pop (S&P 500 -40%, Moonshot Capital Evaporates) | — | — |
| killer | TK01 | AGI Capability Plateau (2026-27 Training Stall) | — | — |
| killer | TK03 | AI Regulatory Moratorium (EU/US Capability Freeze) | — | — |
Dependents (5)
| Type | Pred | Title | Domain | Lag |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| prereq | 235_030 | Ray Kurzweil predicts Longevity Escape Velocity (LEV) by 2033. | Biotech/Longevity | — |
| prereq | 246_016 | Dragonfly nuclear-powered octicopter arrives at Titan in 2034. | Space | — |
| prereq | 240_036 | TEPCO's restarted reactor will support 20% of Japan's electric needs by 2040 | Energy | — |
| prereq | SEM_034 | True artificial general intelligence will be achieved between 2032 and 2042 — 'first we solve AI, then use AI to solve everything else'. | AI/AGI | — |
| prereq | 239_008 | Moon base will exist in 10 years | Space | — |
Linked documents (10)
Raw metadata
{
"nia": true,
"url": "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVvleNtllPk",
"mode": "PREDICTION",
"role": "Host",
"caveats": "not investment advice",
"context": "if anything memory usage is increasing, stock prices of memory companies, many of which are in the the greater South Korea orbit are increasing as well, not investment advice.",
"to_year": 2026,
"verbatim": "These are becoming more frequent and they're also becoming less effective at causing price swings... I think we're going to see stories like this more and more frequently with just shocking advances in in algorithmic efficiency that are predicted to to disrupt the entire economy and actually do the exact opposite.",
"conv_cues": "I think",
"direction": "MIXED",
"from_year": 2026,
"timeframe": "ongoing",
"conv_level": "MEDIUM",
"milestones": [
{
"kind": "llm_pre_event",
"label": "DeepSeek R1 January 2025 release triggers $300B+ single-day market move",
"notes": "HIT — first DeepSeek shock had massive single-day market impact, anchoring the baseline.",
"source": "https://markets.financialcontent.com/stocks/article/breakingcrypto-2026-1-12-the-deepseek-shock-how-ai-efficiency-shattered-the-crypto-market-in-2025",
"status": "hit",
"weight": 0.4,
"ordinal": -8,
"source_id": null,
"confidence": 0.99,
"source_url": "https://markets.financialcontent.com/stocks/article/breakingcrypto-2026-1-12-the-deepseek-shock-how-ai-efficiency-shattered-the-crypto-market-in-2025",
"expected_date": "2025-01-27",
"observed_date": "2025-01-27",
"research_origin": "deep_research",
"measurement_criterion": "Crypto and equity markets sell off >$300B in single day on DeepSeek R1 efficiency revelation"
},
{
"kind": "llm_pre_event",
"label": "NVIDIA reaches $5T market cap despite efficiency narrative",
"notes": "HIT — NVIDIA hit $5T cap in October 2025, validating the bull-thesis recovery and weakening 'efficiency reduces compute demand' narrative.",
"source": "Public market data — NVIDIA hit $5T in October 2025",
"status": "hit",
"weight": 0.4,
"ordinal": -7,
"source_id": null,
"confidence": 0.99,
"source_url": "https://markets.financialcontent.com/stocks/article/breakingcrypto-2026-1-12-the-deepseek-shock-how-ai-efficiency-shattered-the-crypto-market-in-2025",
"expected_date": "2025-10-31",
"observed_date": "2025-10-31",
"research_origin": "deep_research",
"measurement_criterion": "NVIDIA crosses $5 trillion market capitalization, demonstrating that efficiency announcements have not durably destroyed compute demand premium"
},
{
"kind": "llm_pre_event",
"label": "Subsequent DeepSeek-style efficiency announcements fail to repeat the January 2025 selloff",
"notes": "HIT — CNBC explicitly confirms market desensitization to DeepSeek-style announcements, directly validating Wissner-Gross's claim that price-swing magnitude diminishes.",
"source": "https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/06/why-deepseek-didnt-cause-an-investor-frenzy-again-in-2025.html",
"status": "hit",
"weight": 0.4,
"ordinal": -6,
"source_id": null,
"confidence": 0.99,
"source_url": "https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/06/why-deepseek-didnt-cause-an-investor-frenzy-again-in-2025.html",
"expected_date": "2026-01-06",
"observed_date": "2026-01-06",
"research_origin": "deep_research",
"measurement_criterion": "Major financial press (CNBC, Bloomberg) explicitly reports that subsequent DeepSeek announcements did not produce repeat investor frenzy or comparable market dislocation"
},
{
"kind": "prereq",
"label": "Nvidia quadrupled chip production output while only doubling human headcount — achieved by deploying AI coding tools (Cursor, Claude Code) a",
"status": "hit",
"weight": 0.5,
"ordinal": -5,
"source_id": "SEM_012",
... (truncated)