Independent/third party presidential run possible in 2028 election
Predictor: Andrew Yang · ep#236 "Andrew Yang: UBI Before UHI, Solving Job Loss, and the Future of Work | #236" · source
Prediction text
Independent/third party presidential run possible in 2028 election | This is all on the table for 2028. Um, now, will all of that come together? Don't know. Um, but certainly every piece is there.
Verbatim quote
This is all on the table for 2028. Um, now, will all of that come together? Don't know. Um, but certainly every piece is there.
Predictor: Andrew Yang
Calibration plot (stated vs observed)
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Probability over time
Milestone chain
- 2026-02-01hitRFK Jr. listed as 2028 independent presidential candidate (early signal)How: Ballotpedia, Politics1, or comparable election tracker formally lists at least 1 high-profile non-major-party candidate (RFK Jr., or other figure with >=5% national name ID) as a declared 2028 independent or third-party hopefulSource: https://politics1.com/p2028.htmconf 85%
- 2026-09-01 → 2027-09-30pendingIndependent/third-party 2028 candidate polls >=10% in head-to-head three-way matchupHow: FiveThirtyEight / 270toWin / Race-to-the-WH polling average shows a named non-major-party 2028 candidate at >=10% in three-way generic matchup vs Dem/Rep nominee for 2 consecutive monthsSource: https://www.racetothewh.com/president/2028/pollsconf 50%
- 2026-06-01 → 2027-12-31pendingNo Labels, Forward Party, Libertarians, or new party announces 2028 ballot strategy in >=30 statesHow: Organized political party (No Labels successor, Forward, Libertarian, Green, or new entrant) publishes ballot-access strategy targeting >=30 states with documented signature collection and legal teamSource: https://eposimulation.fandom.com/wiki/Third-Party_Candidates_in_the_2028_U.S_Presidential_Electionconf 60%
- 2028-06-01 → 2028-09-30pendingHigh-profile non-major-party candidate qualifies for first general election debateHow: Commission on Presidential Debates (or successor) admits a non-major-party 2028 candidate to >=1 nationally-televised general election debate (Perot 1992 precedent), per published participation rules and polling thresholdsSource: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2028_United_States_presidential_electionconf 30%
- 2028-06-01 → 2028-09-30pendingIndependent/third-party 2028 candidate appears on >=40 state ballots (general election)How: Per Ballotpedia general election ballot tracker, at least 1 independent or third-party candidate certified for general-election ballot in >=40 US states by September 2028 (Perot 1992 = 50, RFK Jr 2024 = ~30)Source: https://ballotpedia.org/Presidential_candidates,_2028conf 55%
- 2028-11-07 → 2028-12-15pendingCascade: Independent/third-party 2028 candidate captures >=5% of national popular voteHow: Certified general election results show non-major-party candidate(s) collectively receive >=5% of national popular vote (FEC official certification), demonstrating viable third-party runSource: https://www.harrisx.com/posts/newsweek-kamala-harris-surges-in-new-2028-pollconf 35%
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Evidence chain
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Top incoming (parents)
Edges that influence THIS node's belief
| Kind | Node | Their prob | P(c|s=T) | P(c|s=F) | Δ implied |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| prereq | 234_012 Anthropic revenue will cross OpenAI revenue in middle of 202 — Peter Diamandis | 67.1% | 0.550 | 0.050 | -0.081 |
| prereq | SEM_042 2025 will be the definitive year that agentic systems finall — Kevin Weil | 73.8% | 0.550 | 0.050 | -0.049 |
| prereq | 235_002 Anthropic will exceed OpenAI in revenue this year (2026). — Dave Blundin | 74.6% | 0.550 | 0.050 | -0.044 |
| prereq | SEM_012 Nvidia quadrupled chip production output while only doubling — Jensen Huang | 75.0% | 0.550 | 0.050 | -0.042 |
| killer | TK03 AI Regulatory Moratorium (EU/US Capability Freeze) | 10.0% | 0.050 | 0.550 | +0.037 |
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Predictions THIS node influences
| Kind | Node | Their prob | P(c|s=T) | P(c|s=F) | Δ implied |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| prereq | 246_017 Europa Clipper will arrive at Jupiter in 2030, conducting 50 — Peter Diamandis | 37.7% | 0.650 | 0.050 | -0.054 |
| prereq | 247_035 Dario Amodei will solve most/all neurological diseases by en — Dario Amodei | 38.8% | 0.700 | 0.050 | -0.042 |
| prereq | 246_016 Dragonfly nuclear-powered octicopter arrives at Titan in 203 — Peter Diamandis | 35.6% | 0.650 | 0.050 | -0.033 |
| prereq | 235_030 Ray Kurzweil predicts Longevity Escape Velocity (LEV) by 203 — Ray Kurzweil | 39.2% | 0.750 | 0.050 | -0.024 |
| prereq | SEM_034 True artificial general intelligence will be achieved betwee — Demis Hassabis | 28.7% | 0.550 | 0.050 | -0.009 |
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Adverse (6)
Prerequisites (8)
| Type | Pred | Title | Domain | Lag |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| prereq | 235_002 | Anthropic will exceed OpenAI in revenue this year (2026). | AI | — |
| prereq | SEM_008 | Training runs costing $10 billion for a single model will commence sometime in 2025. | AI | — |
| prereq | 234_012 | Anthropic revenue will cross OpenAI revenue in middle of 2026 | Markets/Stocks | — |
| prereq | SEM_012 | Nvidia quadrupled chip production output while only doubling human headcount — achieved by deploying AI coding tools (Cursor, Claude Code) across engineering. | AI/Manufacturing | — |
| prereq | SEM_042 | 2025 will be the definitive year that agentic systems finally hit the mainstream. | AI/Agents | — |
| killer | TK14 | Superbubble Pop (S&P 500 -40%, Moonshot Capital Evaporates) | — | — |
| killer | TK01 | AGI Capability Plateau (2026-27 Training Stall) | — | — |
| killer | TK03 | AI Regulatory Moratorium (EU/US Capability Freeze) | — | — |
Dependents (5)
| Type | Pred | Title | Domain | Lag |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| prereq | 235_030 | Ray Kurzweil predicts Longevity Escape Velocity (LEV) by 2033. | Biotech/Longevity | — |
| prereq | 247_035 | Dario Amodei will solve most/all neurological diseases by end of decade | Biotech/Longevity | — |
| prereq | 246_017 | Europa Clipper will arrive at Jupiter in 2030, conducting 50 passes near Europa. | Space | — |
| prereq | 246_016 | Dragonfly nuclear-powered octicopter arrives at Titan in 2034. | Space | — |
| prereq | SEM_034 | True artificial general intelligence will be achieved between 2032 and 2042 — 'first we solve AI, then use AI to solve everything else'. | AI/AGI | — |
Linked documents (10)
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