Most volume in e-commerce and physical world will eventually be dominated by algorithms (like quantitative trading).
Predictor: Alex Wissner-Gross · ep#235 "Amazon's $35B AGI Ultimatum to OpenAI & Anthropic Drops AI Safety | EP #235" · source
Prediction text
Most volume in e-commerce and physical world will eventually be dominated by algorithms (like quantitative trading). | we've seen this happen before in finance with quantitative trading algos which went from none of the volume in public securities markets to 70 80 90 plus% of the daily volume... I think we're going to see the same thing happening in the rest of the world outside finance in the physical world in various e-commerce spaces where over time most of the volume will eventually be dominated by algorithms.
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we've seen this happen before in finance with quantitative trading algos which went from none of the volume in public securities markets to 70 80 90 plus% of the daily volume... I think we're going to see the same thing happening in the rest of the world outside finance in the physical world in various e-commerce spaces where over time most of the volume will eventually be dominated by algorithms.
Predictor: Alex Wissner-Gross
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- 2025-12-31hitRobotaxi market 2025 valuation $4.84B with 86% projected CAGRHow: Industry analyst (Coherent Market Insights) reports 2025 robotaxi market at $4.84B with $693B 2033 forecast and 86% CAGR.Source: Coherent Market Insights — Robotaxi Market Size, Trends & YoY Growth Rate, 2025-2032conf 85%Notes: HIT — autonomous physical-world volume is now scaling exponentially, mirroring the 'quant trading 70-90% of volume' analogy.
- 2025-12-31hitWaymo cumulative paid trips exceed 20M with 250K/week run-rateHow: Waymo publicly reports >20M cumulative paid trips with weekly run-rate >250K, confirming that algorithmic dispatch dominates a growing share of US ride-hail volume.Source: The Driverless Digest — Waymo's 2025 Year in Reviewconf 95%Notes: HIT — direct precondition for the e-commerce / physical-world algorithm-dominance prediction.
- 2026-06-01 → 2028-06-30pendingRobotaxi fleet exceeds 10K vehicles in commercial paid US serviceHow: Combined Waymo + Tesla + Zoox + competitor robotaxi fleet exceeds 10,000 vehicles in commercial paid US service, replicating the 'most volume' threshold from quant-trading parallel.Source: Anticipated — operator press releases, S&P Global Mobility trackingconf 65%Notes: Quant-trading reached 70%+ when fleet of automated systems crossed scale threshold; physical-world parallel here.
- 2026-06-01 → 2029-12-31pendingFirst major US e-commerce platform discloses >50% AI-agent purchase volumeHow: Amazon, Walmart, eBay, Shopify, or comparable platform discloses in 10-K or earnings call that more than 50% of its transaction volume originates from AI shopping agents (vs. human users browsing).Source: Anticipated — public 10-K disclosures, ACP / agent-commerce industry reportsconf 40%Notes: Direct test of 'most of the volume dominated by algorithms' clause for e-commerce specifically.
- 2027-01-01 → 2030-12-31pendingACP / agent-commerce protocols become default checkout in top-10 platformsHow: OpenAI, Anthropic, Google ACP-class protocols are formally supported as a primary checkout option in at least 5 of the top-10 US e-commerce platforms.Source: Anticipated — platform integration announcements, ACP standards bodiesconf 45%Notes: Cascade — infrastructure-level adoption validates 'most volume' migrating to algorithms.
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| Kind | Node | Their prob | P(c|s=T) | P(c|s=F) | Δ implied |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| prereq | SEM_042 2025 will be the definitive year that agentic systems finall — Kevin Weil | 73.8% | 0.500 | 0.050 | -0.046 |
| prereq | 235_038 David Sinclair begins partial epigenetic reprogramming trial — Peter Diamandis | 74.0% | 0.500 | 0.050 | -0.043 |
| prereq | SEM_012 Nvidia quadrupled chip production output while only doubling — Jensen Huang | 75.0% | 0.500 | 0.050 | -0.039 |
| killer | TK03 AI Regulatory Moratorium (EU/US Capability Freeze) | 10.0% | 0.050 | 0.500 | +0.032 |
| prereq | SEM_008 Training runs costing $10 billion for a single model will co — Dario Amodei | 76.9% | 0.500 | 0.050 | -0.031 |
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| prereq | 246_016 Dragonfly nuclear-powered octicopter arrives at Titan in 203 — Peter Diamandis | 35.6% | 0.650 | 0.050 | -0.056 |
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| prereq | SEM_034 True artificial general intelligence will be achieved betwee — Demis Hassabis | 28.7% | 0.550 | 0.050 | -0.028 |
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| Type | Pred | Title | Domain | Lag |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| prereq | 238_009 | Recursive self-improvement is already happening now (no longer three years out) | AI | — |
| prereq | 235_038 | David Sinclair begins partial epigenetic reprogramming trials with Life Biosciences in March 2026. | Biotech/Longevity | — |
| prereq | SEM_008 | Training runs costing $10 billion for a single model will commence sometime in 2025. | AI | — |
| prereq | SEM_012 | Nvidia quadrupled chip production output while only doubling human headcount — achieved by deploying AI coding tools (Cursor, Claude Code) across engineering. | AI/Manufacturing | — |
| prereq | SEM_042 | 2025 will be the definitive year that agentic systems finally hit the mainstream. | AI/Agents | — |
| killer | TK14 | Superbubble Pop (S&P 500 -40%, Moonshot Capital Evaporates) | — | — |
| killer | TK01 | AGI Capability Plateau (2026-27 Training Stall) | — | — |
| killer | TK03 | AI Regulatory Moratorium (EU/US Capability Freeze) | — | — |
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| prereq | 235_030 | Ray Kurzweil predicts Longevity Escape Velocity (LEV) by 2033. | Biotech/Longevity | — |
| prereq | 246_016 | Dragonfly nuclear-powered octicopter arrives at Titan in 2034. | Space | — |
| prereq | 240_036 | TEPCO's restarted reactor will support 20% of Japan's electric needs by 2040 | Energy | — |
| prereq | SEM_034 | True artificial general intelligence will be achieved between 2032 and 2042 — 'first we solve AI, then use AI to solve everything else'. | AI/AGI | — |
| prereq | 239_008 | Moon base will exist in 10 years | Space | — |
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