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Money will stop being relevant at some point

Predictor: Elon Musk · ep#239 "Elon Musk: The Economy Will Be 10x the Size in 10 Years | #239" · source

Prior probability
50.0%
Current probability
35.1%
evolves via intake + LBP
Conviction
3/5
Signal quality
C
Resolution
pending
Window
2026-04-30 – 2026-12-31
Edges in / out
6 / 5
Tickers exposed
21

Prediction text

Money will stop being relevant at some point | I think money will stop being relevant at some point in the future.

Verbatim quote

From episode "Elon Musk: The Economy Will Be 10x the Size in 10 Years | #239"
I think money will stop being relevant at some point in the future.

Predictor: Elon Musk

κ + Brier as of 2026-05-22
κ (discount)
0.688
Brier
0.0142
excellent
Hits / Misses
1 / 0
of 3 resolved
Hit rate
33.3%
Calibration plot (stated vs observed)

Evidence about this node from Elon Musk is multiplied by κ in /api/intake. Lower κ = less weight; floors at 0.10 (effectively silenced) and caps at 1.00 (full weight).

Reference class

Not linked

This node isn't linked to a reference class. The Bayesian update applies without outside-view blending.

Probability over time

5 prob_history rows
0%25%50%75%100%prior 50%2026-04-302026-05-032026-05-17
intake v2milestone miss sweeplbp propagationreference class assignedlegacy v1prior_prob (analyst seed)current = 35.1%

Milestone chain

Pre-event signals (upstream prereqs + window checkpoints) → resolution event → downstream cascades. Status/dates update from linked nodes; re-derive nightly via scripts/ops/derive_milestones.py.
Leading chain: 3 fired ✓ · 3 pending
  1. 2026-06-30pendingAnthropic CEO restates AGI 2026-2027 timeline at major venue
    How: Dario Amodei (or Anthropic OSTP submission update) publicly maintains 2026-late / 2027-early powerful AI emergence timeline at named conference / regulatory filing
    Source: deep_research_enrichedconf 85%
  2. 2026-07-01 → 2026-12-31pendingFrontier model achieves novel scientific insight (Altman 2026 prediction)
    How: Peer-reviewed publication or major announcement attributes a previously unknown scientific result (drug target, math conjecture, materials property) primarily to a frontier AI model with limited human guidance
    Source: deep_research_enrichedconf 60%
  3. 2026-09-30pendingG20 / OECD policy paper acknowledges money/work decoupling scenario
    How: Multilateral institution publishes policy paper that explicitly contemplates a post-scarcity / wage-decoupling scenario as plausible by 2030
    Source: deep_research_enrichedconf 45%
  4. 2026-12-15pendingMacro indicator: real wage / consumption ratios show AI-era distortion
    How: Bureau of Economic Analysis or Fed staff working paper notes anomalous wage-to-output divergence attributed to AI productivity gains not flowing to labor
    Source: deep_research_enrichedconf 40%
  5. 2036-08-14pendingPeople will be on Mars within 10 years
  6. 2036-09-06pendingMoon base will exist in 10 years

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(live posterior: 35%)

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Evidence chain

Every probability update with full Bayesian provenance — chronological, latest first
LBP2026-05-17T02:00:01Z35.1%-1.5pp
Network propagation: 36.6% → 35.1%
5-iter LBP, residual 0.00689 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v3 · run e607fa96
LBP2026-05-10T02:00:02Z36.6%-2.7pp
Network propagation: 39.3% → 36.6%
6-iter LBP, residual 0.00584 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v3 · run e5c18d29
LBP2026-05-03T02:00:01Z39.3%-4.8pp
Network propagation: 44.1% → 39.3%
6-iter LBP, residual 0.00677 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v3 · run 1a683ac9
LBP2026-04-30T16:39:51Z44.1%-2.0pp
Network propagation: 46.1% → 44.1%
5-iter LBP, residual 0.00825 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v2 · run 0c8a4ea3
LBP2026-04-30T02:18:57Z46.1%-3.9pp
Network propagation: 50.0% → 46.1%
5-iter LBP, residual 0.00825 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v1 · run 592311ef

Network propagation neighbors

Top edges sorted by latest LBP cross-impact
All propagation →

Top incoming (parents)

Edges that influence THIS node's belief

KindNodeTheir probP(c|s=T)P(c|s=F)Δ implied
prereqS_RECESSION_2026
NBER recession declared 2026
20.0%0.5000.050-0.211
killerTK03
AI Regulatory Moratorium (EU/US Capability Freeze)
10.0%0.0500.500+0.104
killerTK01
AGI Capability Plateau (2026-27 Training Stall)
15.0%0.0500.500+0.082
prereq242_057
Artemis 2 launches April 1, 2026 - circumlunar missionPeter Diamandis
56.2%0.5000.050-0.054
prereq238_009
Recursive self-improvement is already happening now (no longAlex Wissner-Gross
78.1%0.5000.050+0.047

Top outgoing (children)

Predictions THIS node influences

KindNodeTheir probP(c|s=T)P(c|s=F)Δ implied
prereq235_030
Ray Kurzweil predicts Longevity Escape Velocity (LEV) by 203Ray Kurzweil
39.2%0.7500.050-0.103
prereq239_009
People will be on Mars within 10 yearsElon Musk
30.9%0.5500.050-0.088
prereq232_047
Mass drivers on the moon will shoot AI satellites into deep Elon Musk
30.0%0.5500.050-0.079
prereq239_008
Moon base will exist in 10 yearsElon Musk
28.8%0.5500.050-0.067
prereqSEM_034
True artificial general intelligence will be achieved betweeDemis Hassabis
28.7%0.5500.050-0.066

Ticker exposure

21 ticker(s) linked

Beneficiaries (14)

SOUNNVDAGTLBAIBBAITCEHYAMZNBABAGOOGLIBMMETAMSFTORCLSHOP

Adverse (7)

ACNCTSHFRSHCHGGIBMINFYPEGA

Prerequisites (6)

Predictions that must hit first
TypePredTitleDomainLag
prereq238_009Recursive self-improvement is already happening now (no longer three years out)AI
prereq235_038David Sinclair begins partial epigenetic reprogramming trials with Life Biosciences in March 2026.Biotech/Longevity
prereq242_057Artemis 2 launches April 1, 2026 - circumlunar missionSpace
prereqS_RECESSION_2026NBER recession declared 2026macro_recession
killerTK01AGI Capability Plateau (2026-27 Training Stall)
killerTK03AI Regulatory Moratorium (EU/US Capability Freeze)

Dependents (5)

Predictions enabled by this
TypePredTitleDomainLag
prereq235_030Ray Kurzweil predicts Longevity Escape Velocity (LEV) by 2033.Biotech/Longevity
prereqSEM_034True artificial general intelligence will be achieved between 2032 and 2042 — 'first we solve AI, then use AI to solve everything else'.AI/AGI
prereq239_008Moon base will exist in 10 yearsSpace
prereq239_009People will be on Mars within 10 yearsSpace
prereq232_047Mass drivers on the moon will shoot AI satellites into deep space; self-sustaining lunar city will follow.Space

Linked documents (1)

Auto-generated by cosine similarity from Polymarket / Manifold / EDGAR / GDELT
SimSourceTitleMarket probPolarityReviewedPublished
0.573polymarketWill LeBron James retire before next NBA season?14%mentionspending2025-11-28

Raw metadata

From Thesis_Timeline_v1.0_FINAL workbook
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  "timeframe": "future, unspecified",
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