239_021predictionMacro/EconomyAGI
Money will stop being relevant at some point
Predictor: Elon Musk · ep#239 "Elon Musk: The Economy Will Be 10x the Size in 10 Years | #239" · source
Prior probability
50.0%
Current probability
35.1%
evolves via intake + LBP
Conviction
3/5
Signal quality
C
Resolution
pending
Window
2026-04-30 – 2026-12-31
Edges in / out
6 / 5
Tickers exposed
21
Prediction text
Money will stop being relevant at some point | I think money will stop being relevant at some point in the future.
Verbatim quote
From episode "Elon Musk: The Economy Will Be 10x the Size in 10 Years | #239"
I think money will stop being relevant at some point in the future.
Predictor: Elon Musk
κ + Brier as of 2026-05-22
κ (discount)
0.688
Brier
0.0142
excellent
Hits / Misses
1 / 0
of 3 resolved
Hit rate
33.3%
Calibration plot (stated vs observed)
Evidence about this node from Elon Musk is multiplied by κ in /api/intake. Lower κ = less weight; floors at 0.10 (effectively silenced) and caps at 1.00 (full weight).
Reference class
Not linked
This node isn't linked to a reference class. The Bayesian update applies without outside-view blending.
Probability over time
5 prob_history rows
intake v2milestone miss sweeplbp propagationreference class assignedlegacy v1prior_prob (analyst seed)current = 35.1%
Milestone chain
Pre-event signals (upstream prereqs + window checkpoints) → resolution event → downstream cascades. Status/dates update from linked nodes; re-derive nightly via scripts/ops/derive_milestones.py.
Leading chain: 3 fired ✓ · 3 pending
- 2026-06-30pendingAnthropic CEO restates AGI 2026-2027 timeline at major venueHow: Dario Amodei (or Anthropic OSTP submission update) publicly maintains 2026-late / 2027-early powerful AI emergence timeline at named conference / regulatory filingSource: deep_research_enrichedconf 85%
- 2026-07-01 → 2026-12-31pendingFrontier model achieves novel scientific insight (Altman 2026 prediction)How: Peer-reviewed publication or major announcement attributes a previously unknown scientific result (drug target, math conjecture, materials property) primarily to a frontier AI model with limited human guidanceSource: deep_research_enrichedconf 60%
- 2026-09-30pendingG20 / OECD policy paper acknowledges money/work decoupling scenarioHow: Multilateral institution publishes policy paper that explicitly contemplates a post-scarcity / wage-decoupling scenario as plausible by 2030Source: deep_research_enrichedconf 45%
- 2026-12-15pendingMacro indicator: real wage / consumption ratios show AI-era distortionHow: Bureau of Economic Analysis or Fed staff working paper notes anomalous wage-to-output divergence attributed to AI productivity gains not flowing to laborSource: deep_research_enrichedconf 40%
What if this resolves?
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(live posterior: 35%)
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Evidence chain
Every probability update with full Bayesian provenance — chronological, latest first
LBP2026-05-17T02:00:01Z35.1%-1.5pp
Network propagation: 36.6% → 35.1%
5-iter LBP, residual 0.00689 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v3 · run e607fa96
LBP2026-05-10T02:00:02Z36.6%-2.7pp
Network propagation: 39.3% → 36.6%
6-iter LBP, residual 0.00584 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v3 · run e5c18d29
LBP2026-05-03T02:00:01Z39.3%-4.8pp
Network propagation: 44.1% → 39.3%
6-iter LBP, residual 0.00677 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v3 · run 1a683ac9
LBP2026-04-30T16:39:51Z44.1%-2.0pp
Network propagation: 46.1% → 44.1%
5-iter LBP, residual 0.00825 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v2 · run 0c8a4ea3
LBP2026-04-30T02:18:57Z46.1%-3.9pp
Network propagation: 50.0% → 46.1%
5-iter LBP, residual 0.00825 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v1 · run 592311ef
Network propagation neighbors
Top edges sorted by latest LBP cross-impact
Top incoming (parents)
Edges that influence THIS node's belief
| Kind | Node | Their prob | P(c|s=T) | P(c|s=F) | Δ implied |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| prereq | S_RECESSION_2026 NBER recession declared 2026 | 20.0% | 0.500 | 0.050 | -0.211 |
| killer | TK03 AI Regulatory Moratorium (EU/US Capability Freeze) | 10.0% | 0.050 | 0.500 | +0.104 |
| killer | TK01 AGI Capability Plateau (2026-27 Training Stall) | 15.0% | 0.050 | 0.500 | +0.082 |
| prereq | 242_057 Artemis 2 launches April 1, 2026 - circumlunar mission — Peter Diamandis | 56.2% | 0.500 | 0.050 | -0.054 |
| prereq | 238_009 Recursive self-improvement is already happening now (no long — Alex Wissner-Gross | 78.1% | 0.500 | 0.050 | +0.047 |
Top outgoing (children)
Predictions THIS node influences
| Kind | Node | Their prob | P(c|s=T) | P(c|s=F) | Δ implied |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| prereq | 235_030 Ray Kurzweil predicts Longevity Escape Velocity (LEV) by 203 — Ray Kurzweil | 39.2% | 0.750 | 0.050 | -0.103 |
| prereq | 239_009 People will be on Mars within 10 years — Elon Musk | 30.9% | 0.550 | 0.050 | -0.088 |
| prereq | 232_047 Mass drivers on the moon will shoot AI satellites into deep — Elon Musk | 30.0% | 0.550 | 0.050 | -0.079 |
| prereq | 239_008 Moon base will exist in 10 years — Elon Musk | 28.8% | 0.550 | 0.050 | -0.067 |
| prereq | SEM_034 True artificial general intelligence will be achieved betwee — Demis Hassabis | 28.7% | 0.550 | 0.050 | -0.066 |
Ticker exposure
21 ticker(s) linked
Beneficiaries (14)
Adverse (7)
Prerequisites (6)
Predictions that must hit first
| Type | Pred | Title | Domain | Lag |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| prereq | 238_009 | Recursive self-improvement is already happening now (no longer three years out) | AI | — |
| prereq | 235_038 | David Sinclair begins partial epigenetic reprogramming trials with Life Biosciences in March 2026. | Biotech/Longevity | — |
| prereq | 242_057 | Artemis 2 launches April 1, 2026 - circumlunar mission | Space | — |
| prereq | S_RECESSION_2026 | NBER recession declared 2026 | macro_recession | — |
| killer | TK01 | AGI Capability Plateau (2026-27 Training Stall) | — | — |
| killer | TK03 | AI Regulatory Moratorium (EU/US Capability Freeze) | — | — |
Dependents (5)
Predictions enabled by this
| Type | Pred | Title | Domain | Lag |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| prereq | 235_030 | Ray Kurzweil predicts Longevity Escape Velocity (LEV) by 2033. | Biotech/Longevity | — |
| prereq | SEM_034 | True artificial general intelligence will be achieved between 2032 and 2042 — 'first we solve AI, then use AI to solve everything else'. | AI/AGI | — |
| prereq | 239_008 | Moon base will exist in 10 years | Space | — |
| prereq | 239_009 | People will be on Mars within 10 years | Space | — |
| prereq | 232_047 | Mass drivers on the moon will shoot AI satellites into deep space; self-sustaining lunar city will follow. | Space | — |
Linked documents (1)
Auto-generated by cosine similarity from Polymarket / Manifold / EDGAR / GDELT
| Sim | Source | Title | Market prob | Polarity | Reviewed | Published |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 0.573 | polymarket | Will LeBron James retire before next NBA season? | 14% | mentions | pending | 2025-11-28 |
Raw metadata
From Thesis_Timeline_v1.0_FINAL workbook
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