OpenAI will operate at a ~$9B deficit in 2025, driven almost entirely by advanced-chip acquisition and facility construction.
Predictor: Sam Altman
Prediction text
OpenAI will operate at a ~$9B deficit in 2025, driven almost entirely by advanced-chip acquisition and facility construction. | OpenAI 2025 annual disclosure
Key catalyst: OpenAI 2025 annual disclosure
Watch events: OpenAI 2025 full-year financial disclosures; annual compute-spend breakdown
Resolution evidence
OpenAI disclosed $5B loss through mid-2025; trajectory on pace for ~$8-10B full-year deficit driven by compute costs.
Predictor: Sam Altman
Calibration plot (stated vs observed)
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Reference class
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Probability over time
Milestone chain
- 2025-04-02overdueQ1 window check-in (25%)
- 2025-07-02overdueQ2 window check-in (50%)
- 2025-10-01overdueQ3 window check-in (75%)
- 2025-11-12hitWSJ confirms OpenAI 2025 financial loss disclosureHow: Wall Street Journal or peer publication discloses OpenAI's 2025 spending, revenue, and net loss figures via leaked financial documentsSource: https://fortune.com/2025/11/12/openai-cash-burn-rate-annual-losses-2028-profitable-2030-financial-documents/ — Fortune Nov 12 2025 reporting on WSJ documents showing $22B spending vs $13B revenue = ~$9B lossconf 95%Notes: Already CONFIRMED by Fortune/WSJ reporting — $22B spending, $13B revenue, $9B net loss matches the prediction exactly. Mark as HIT.
- 2026-04-15hitOpenAI ARR crosses $25B thresholdHow: OpenAI publicly discloses or leaks annual recurring revenue (ARR) ≥$25BSource: OpenAI announcements, The Information, Bloomberg. ARR exceeded $25B by April 2026 per Sacra and emarketer.com reporting.conf 95%Notes: Already HIT per Sacra and other tracking sources confirming $25B+ ARR by April 2026.
- 2026-11-01 → 2027-04-30pendingOpenAI 2026 financial disclosure shows ~$14B+ lossesHow: OpenAI 2026 annual disclosure (via S-1, leak, or partner reporting) shows >$14B in losses for FY2026, confirming the WSJ projection trajectorySource: Fortune/WSJ reporting based on financial documents projecting $14B 2026 losses, $74B by 2028conf 75%
- 2026-06-01 → 2027-12-31pendingOpenAI Stargate $500B partnership delivers first 10GW phaseHow: Stargate Phase 1 (10GW data center capacity in U.S.) delivers first operational gigawatt with public confirmation from SoftBank/Oracle/Microsoft/NVIDIA partnersSource: Stargate partner announcements, OpenAI blog, government press releasesconf 65%
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Evidence chain
Raw metadata
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}Network propagation neighbors
Top incoming (parents)
Edges that influence THIS node's belief
| Kind | Node | Their prob | P(c|s=T) | P(c|s=F) | Δ implied |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| killer | TK05 Rate Regime Persistence (10y > 5% through 2028) | 30.0% | 0.050 | 0.750 | -0.095 |
| killer | TK04 Macro Recession 2026-27 (Structural Deleveraging) | 25.0% | 0.050 | 0.750 | -0.060 |
| killer | TK02 AI Compute Supply Shock (TSMC/Taiwan Disruption) | 12.0% | 0.050 | 0.750 | +0.031 |
| killer | TK10 $100T Sovereign Debt Crisis | 12.0% | 0.050 | 0.750 | +0.031 |
| killer | TK07 Labor Political Backlash (UBI Mandate / AI Tax) | 18.0% | 0.050 | 0.750 | -0.011 |
Top outgoing (children)
Predictions THIS node influences
| Kind | Node | Their prob | P(c|s=T) | P(c|s=F) | Δ implied |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| prereq | 236_045 Government path to UBI vanishingly unlikely, but possible ou — Andrew Yang | 40.6% | 0.500 | 0.050 | -0.075 |
| prereq | 247_015 Government will print UBI checks in next 2-5 years due to AI — Peter Diamandis | 46.1% | 0.600 | 0.050 | -0.067 |
| prereq | 230_035 GDP will 2x or 3x year-over-year in early 2030s if everythin — Alex Wissner-Gross | 32.0% | 0.450 | 0.050 | -0.020 |
| prereq | 239_001 Global economy will be 10x its current size in 10 years — Elon Musk | 37.7% | 0.600 | 0.050 | +0.017 |
| prereq | 248_009 Elon Musk's economy will grow 10x in about 10 years. — Elon Musk | 37.3% | 0.550 | 0.050 | -0.010 |
Ticker exposure
Beneficiaries (23)
Adverse (7)
Prerequisites (6)
| Type | Pred | Title | Domain | Lag |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| correlate | S_IPO_TRILLION_2027 | First $1T+ IPO in 2027 | ipo_trillion_plus | — |
| killer | TK05 | Rate Regime Persistence (10y > 5% through 2028) | — | — |
| killer | TK04 | Macro Recession 2026-27 (Structural Deleveraging) | — | — |
| killer | TK07 | Labor Political Backlash (UBI Mandate / AI Tax) | — | — |
| killer | TK02 | AI Compute Supply Shock (TSMC/Taiwan Disruption) | — | — |
| killer | TK10 | $100T Sovereign Debt Crisis | — | — |
Dependents (7)
| Type | Pred | Title | Domain | Lag |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| prereq | 247_015 | Government will print UBI checks in next 2-5 years due to AI turbulence | Macro/Economy | — |
| prereq | 239_001 | Global economy will be 10x its current size in 10 years | Macro/Economy | — |
| prereq | 246_003 | Global economy will grow 10x in 10 years (cited from Elon Musk). | Macro/Economy | — |
| prereq | 248_009 | Elon Musk's economy will grow 10x in about 10 years. | Macro/Economy | — |
| prereq | 239_027 | Diamandis cites Musk: triple-digit GDP growth in 5+ years | Macro/Economy | — |
| prereq | 236_045 | Government path to UBI vanishingly unlikely, but possible outsized asymmetry in 2028 | Geopolitics | — |
| prereq | 230_035 | GDP will 2x or 3x year-over-year in early 2030s if everything goes well. | Macro/Economy | — |
Expected milestones (1)
| Expected by | Description | Status |
|---|---|---|
| 2026-06-30 | [Capital Markets 2026-06] AI next funding round; IPO timing; reve [SEM_006] OpenAI 2025 full-year financial disclosures; annual compute-spend breakdown | pending |
Validations (1)
| Observed at | Status | By | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2026-04-29 | hit | thesis_timeline_v1.0_import | OpenAI disclosed $5B loss through mid-2025; trajectory on pace for ~$8-10B full-year deficit driven by compute costs. |
Linked documents (5)
| Sim | Source | Title | Market prob | Polarity | Reviewed | Published |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 0.747 | manifold | Before 2029, will OpenAI derive less than 25% of revenue from token-priced API access? | 24% | mentions | pending | 2026-06-05 |
| 0.711 | manifold | Will OpenAI publicly share software it developed to make its AI run on chips from different providers, in 2026? | 26% | mentions | pending | 2026-06-01 |
| 0.706 | gdelt | openai revenue miss ripples p 132038121.html | — | mentions | pending | 2026-04-30 |
| 0.657 | manifold | OPQA (OpenAI-proof QA) hits 20% before 2027 | 59% | mentions | pending | 2026-05-30 |
| 0.614 | gdelt | google gives openai 20 billion reasons to worry 2000752324 | — | mentions | pending | 2026-04-30 |
Raw metadata
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