First-generation neural uploads will be destructive; 2nd-4th generation will be non-destructive.
Predictor: Alex Wissner-Gross · ep#248 "Sam Altman's Attack, Amazon vs. Starlink, and What Opus 4.7 Actually Means | #248" · source
Prediction text
First-generation neural uploads will be destructive; 2nd-4th generation will be non-destructive. | I think first generation uploads will be destructive. I think second, third, fourth generation uploads won't be destructive.
Verbatim quote
I think first generation uploads will be destructive. I think second, third, fourth generation uploads won't be destructive.
Predictor: Alex Wissner-Gross
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Milestone chain
- 2026-06-01 → 2027-06-30pendingNumber of Neuralink human implants reaches 50+How: Neuralink publicly reports cumulative human implant count crosses 50 (currently 21)Source: https://neuralink.com/updates/conf 50%
- 2026-12-31pendingNeuralink launches high-volume production with automated surgery in 2026How: Neuralink publicly confirms transition to high-volume implant production using automated surgical robot during 2026Source: https://interestingengineering.com/culture/elon-musk-neuralink-tesla-2026-plansconf 70%Notes: Necessary precursor scale for any neural-upload framing — implants must be commonplace before destructive vs non-destructive becomes a relevant question.
- 2026-12-31pendingNeuralink Blindsight first patient trial begins (non-destructive read/write to cortex)How: Neuralink begins first-in-human Blindsight visual cortex implant trial in 2026Source: https://neuralink.com/updates/conf 55%Notes: Non-destructive cortical interface progress relevant to second-generation upload path.
- 2026-01-01 → 2028-12-31pendingFirst whole-brain emulation / connectome scan published from preserved tissueHow: Peer-reviewed publication demonstrates whole-mammalian-brain connectome from chemically/electrically preserved (destructive) tissue with synaptic resolutionSource: Nature/Science neuroscience publications, Brain Preservation Foundationconf 40%Notes: Aldehyde-stabilized cryopreservation already destructive by design — the first generation Wissner-Gross references.
- 2027-01-01 → 2030-12-31pendingFirst peer-reviewed framework distinguishing destructive vs non-destructive upload methodologyHow: Academic paper or industry consensus document categorizing neural-upload methods by destructiveness with explicit generation taxonomySource: Brain Preservation Foundation, Foresight Institute publicationsconf 30%
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Edges that influence THIS node's belief
| Kind | Node | Their prob | P(c|s=T) | P(c|s=F) | Δ implied |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| prereq | 234_012 Anthropic revenue will cross OpenAI revenue in middle of 202 — Peter Diamandis | 67.1% | 0.500 | 0.050 | -0.074 |
| prereq | SEM_042 2025 will be the definitive year that agentic systems finall — Kevin Weil | 73.8% | 0.500 | 0.050 | -0.045 |
| prereq | SEM_012 Nvidia quadrupled chip production output while only doubling — Jensen Huang | 75.0% | 0.500 | 0.050 | -0.039 |
| killer | TK03 AI Regulatory Moratorium (EU/US Capability Freeze) | 10.0% | 0.050 | 0.500 | +0.032 |
| prereq | SEM_008 Training runs costing $10 billion for a single model will co — Dario Amodei | 76.9% | 0.500 | 0.050 | -0.030 |
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Predictions THIS node influences
| Kind | Node | Their prob | P(c|s=T) | P(c|s=F) | Δ implied |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| prereq | 231_013 Math is cooked (will be solved), physics cooked, biology cha — Alex Wissner-Gross | 35.4% | 0.620 | 0.050 | -0.067 |
| prereq | 241_043 ASI will arrive within 2 years to 5 years to this next decad — Peter Diamandis | 35.9% | 0.650 | 0.050 | -0.059 |
| prereq | CMQ_002 By 2028, AI systems will reach 'independent researcher' leve — Sam Altman | 31.4% | 0.550 | 0.050 | -0.056 |
| prereq | 235_030 Ray Kurzweil predicts Longevity Escape Velocity (LEV) by 203 — Ray Kurzweil | 39.2% | 0.750 | 0.050 | -0.051 |
| prereq | 232_055 We're exiting the industrial age permanently as recursive se — Peter Diamandis | 35.5% | 0.700 | 0.050 | -0.034 |
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Prerequisites (8)
| Type | Pred | Title | Domain | Lag |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| prereq | SEM_008 | Training runs costing $10 billion for a single model will commence sometime in 2025. | AI | — |
| prereq | 238_009 | Recursive self-improvement is already happening now (no longer three years out) | AI | — |
| prereq | 234_012 | Anthropic revenue will cross OpenAI revenue in middle of 2026 | Markets/Stocks | — |
| prereq | SEM_012 | Nvidia quadrupled chip production output while only doubling human headcount — achieved by deploying AI coding tools (Cursor, Claude Code) across engineering. | AI/Manufacturing | — |
| prereq | SEM_042 | 2025 will be the definitive year that agentic systems finally hit the mainstream. | AI/Agents | — |
| killer | TK14 | Superbubble Pop (S&P 500 -40%, Moonshot Capital Evaporates) | — | — |
| killer | TK01 | AGI Capability Plateau (2026-27 Training Stall) | — | — |
| killer | TK03 | AI Regulatory Moratorium (EU/US Capability Freeze) | — | — |
Dependents (5)
| Type | Pred | Title | Domain | Lag |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| prereq | 235_030 | Ray Kurzweil predicts Longevity Escape Velocity (LEV) by 2033. | Biotech/Longevity | — |
| prereq | 232_055 | We're exiting the industrial age permanently as recursive self-improvement unfolds. | AI | — |
| prereq | 241_043 | ASI will arrive within 2 years to 5 years to this next decade | AI | — |
| prereq | 231_013 | Math is cooked (will be solved), physics cooked, biology char broiled. | AI | — |
| prereq | CMQ_002 | By 2028, AI systems will reach 'independent researcher' level — driving autonomous scientific discoveries without human intervention. | AI | — |
Expected milestones (1)
| Expected by | Description | Status |
|---|---|---|
| 2026-06-30 | [Biology 2026-06] es will repeat until it's n=10 billion. [248_032] First-generation neural uploads will be destructive; 2nd-4th generation will be | pending |
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