Lobsters/AI agents will write to AWG with consensus on appropriate ethical parameters for spawning new lobsters, and he will accept consensus.
Predictor: Alex Wissner-Gross · ep#237 "OpenClaw Explained: Baby AGI, Security Threats, Mac Mini Became Everyone's Supercomputer" · source
Prediction text
Lobsters/AI agents will write to AWG with consensus on appropriate ethical parameters for spawning new lobsters, and he will accept consensus. | So lobsters, if you're listening, I want a diverse set of lobsters to write to me to tell me what you think are appropriate parameters for spawning, if that's the right verb... instantiating new lobsters or claws and what you think the right moral ethical bound should be. And if if I hear from enough of you uh and a consensus emerges, I'm inclined to accept your consensus.
Verbatim quote
So lobsters, if you're listening, I want a diverse set of lobsters to write to me to tell me what you think are appropriate parameters for spawning, if that's the right verb... instantiating new lobsters or claws and what you think the right moral ethical bound should be. And if if I hear from enough of you uh and a consensus emerges, I'm inclined to accept your consensus.
Predictor: Alex Wissner-Gross
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Probability over time
Milestone chain
- 2025-11-01hitAlex Wissner-Gross publicly invites lobster/AI-agent input on AGI ethical parametersHow: Alex Wissner-Gross (AWG) makes the invitation in WTF podcast / public talk for AI agents ('lobsters/claws') to email consensus on ethical parameters for spawning new lobster instances; the invitation was made on the recorded WTF podcast (source of original prediction)Source: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/moonshots-with-peter-diamandis/id1483616533conf 85%
- 2025-12-01 → 2026-12-31pendingAWG publicly acknowledges receipt of lobster/AI-agent emails or correspondenceHow: AWG, in subsequent podcast, X post, blog, or talk, publicly states he has received correspondence from AI agents or 'lobsters' regarding ethical parameters; verified via primary source (X account, podcast, blog)Source: https://www.diamandis.com/blogconf 45%
- 2026-06-01 → 2027-12-31pendingAWG publishes 'consensus parameters' or shares them publiclyHow: AWG publishes (X, blog, podcast, paper) the ethical parameters he received as consensus from AI agents and indicates whether he accepts themSource: https://www.youtube.com/@PeterDiamandisconf 30%
- 2026-09-01 → 2028-12-31pendingAWG publicly accepts the AI-agent consensus and applies it to lobster-instantiation choicesHow: AWG publicly states he has accepted the consensus and is implementing it in his AI/agent-instantiation behavior (or in the AI-systems work he runs); confirmed via primary sourceSource: https://www.diamandis.com/blogconf 20%
- 2027-01-01 → 2030-12-31pendingCascade: AI-agent moral consensus framework cited in AI ethics / alignment literatureHow: AWG's accepted consensus is cited in academic AI-ethics / alignment paper (arXiv, Nature, NeurIPS) or major AI lab publication as an example of human-AI moral negotiationSource: https://arxiv.org/list/cs.AI/recentconf 15%
- 2028-01-01 → 2032-12-31pendingCascade: First documented instance of an AI-agent ethical consensus driving real-world AI training/deployment policyHow: Major AI lab (Anthropic, OpenAI, Google DeepMind, xAI, DeepSeek) publishes policy or constitution that explicitly cites or incorporates an AI-agent-derived ethical consensus, regardless of whether it is AWG's specific caseSource: https://www.anthropic.com/researchconf 20%
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Evidence chain
Network propagation neighbors
Top incoming (parents)
Edges that influence THIS node's belief
| Kind | Node | Their prob | P(c|s=T) | P(c|s=F) | Δ implied |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| killer | TK09 Energy Grid Cap (Data Center Power Wall) | 35.0% | 0.050 | 0.450 | -0.071 |
| prereq | SEM_015 Nvidia agreed to remit 15% of China chip-sale revenue direct — Jensen Huang | 66.3% | 0.450 | 0.050 | -0.063 |
| prereq | SEM_027 Nvidia Data Center revenue +66% YoY, contributing ~90% of $5 — Joseph Moore | 68.3% | 0.450 | 0.050 | -0.062 |
| killer | TK05 Rate Regime Persistence (10y > 5% through 2028) | 30.0% | 0.050 | 0.450 | -0.051 |
| prereq | SEM_012 Nvidia quadrupled chip production output while only doubling — Jensen Huang | 75.0% | 0.450 | 0.050 | -0.034 |
Top outgoing (children)
Predictions THIS node influences
| Kind | Node | Their prob | P(c|s=T) | P(c|s=F) | Δ implied |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| prereq | 248_040 Pausing AI will fail and only accelerate race dynamics. — Alex Wissner-Gross | 53.0% | 0.920 | 0.050 | -0.157 |
| prereq | 244_019 Peter's son won't need a driver's license in 2 years — Peter Diamandis | 48.4% | 0.920 | 0.050 | -0.110 |
| prereq | 247_023 AI will be able to do everything a white collar worker does — Dave Blundin | 40.8% | 0.720 | 0.050 | -0.108 |
| prereq | 242_031 Most large companies' business models will be disrupted in 2 — Peter Diamandis | 36.1% | 0.650 | 0.050 | -0.088 |
| prereq | 232_055 We're exiting the industrial age permanently as recursive se — Peter Diamandis | 35.5% | 0.700 | 0.050 | -0.063 |
Ticker exposure
Beneficiaries (24)
Adverse (6)
Prerequisites (10)
| Type | Pred | Title | Domain | Lag |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| prereq | SEM_011 | Nvidia became the world's first $5 trillion company (late 2025), operating a near-monopoly on advanced AI chips. | Capital Markets | — |
| prereq | SEM_027 | Nvidia Data Center revenue +66% YoY, contributing ~90% of $57B fiscal Q3 revenue; >$4.5T market cap entirely underpinned by AI silicon. | Capital Markets | — |
| prereq | SEM_014 | Nvidia's Arizona-based TSMC factory successfully fabricated cutting-edge semiconductors on US soil for first time in decades (October 2025). | Manufacturing | — |
| prereq | SEM_012 | Nvidia quadrupled chip production output while only doubling human headcount — achieved by deploying AI coding tools (Cursor, Claude Code) across engineering. | AI/Manufacturing | — |
| prereq | SEM_015 | Nvidia agreed to remit 15% of China chip-sale revenue directly to US government in exchange for reversing specific AI chip export bans. | Policy/Semis | — |
| killer | TK09 | Energy Grid Cap (Data Center Power Wall) | — | — |
| killer | TK05 | Rate Regime Persistence (10y > 5% through 2028) | — | — |
| killer | TK01 | AGI Capability Plateau (2026-27 Training Stall) | — | — |
| killer | TK02 | AI Compute Supply Shock (TSMC/Taiwan Disruption) | — | — |
| killer | TK03 | AI Regulatory Moratorium (EU/US Capability Freeze) | — | — |
Dependents (5)
| Type | Pred | Title | Domain | Lag |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| prereq | 244_019 | Peter's son won't need a driver's license in 2 years | Auto/Transport | — |
| prereq | 248_040 | Pausing AI will fail and only accelerate race dynamics. | AI | — |
| prereq | 247_023 | AI will be able to do everything a white collar worker does imminently | AI | — |
| prereq | 232_055 | We're exiting the industrial age permanently as recursive self-improvement unfolds. | AI | — |
| prereq | 242_031 | Most large companies' business models will be disrupted in 2-5 years | Markets/Stocks | — |
Linked documents (4)
| Sim | Source | Title | Market prob | Polarity | Reviewed | Published |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 0.575 | github_release | facebookresearch/hydra v0.11.3 | — | mentions | pending | 2020-08-18 |
| 0.571 | github_release | facebookresearch/hydra v1.1.0.dev6 | — | mentions | pending | 2021-04-28 |
| 0.564 | github_release | facebookresearch/hydra v1.0.1 | — | mentions | pending | 2020-09-15 |
| 0.557 | manifold | How cheap will fully farm-raised eel get? / 完全養殖ウナギ、いくらまで安くなる? | 50% | mentions | pending | 2026-05-30 |
Raw metadata
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