Google's Q-Day for quantum breaking RSA moved up to 2029
Predictor: Google · ep#247 "Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI's $852B Valuation EP #247" · source
Prediction text
Google's Q-Day for quantum breaking RSA moved up to 2029 | Google moves up their deadline by six years to 2029 for basically Qday. When are we going to see quantum computers break RSA?
Verbatim quote
Google moves up their deadline by six years to 2029 for basically Qday. When are we going to see quantum computers break RSA?
Predictor: Google
Evidence about this node from Google is multiplied by κ in /api/intake. Lower κ = less weight; floors at 0.10 (effectively silenced) and caps at 1.00 (full weight).
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Probability over time
Milestone chain
- 2025-05-23hitCraig Gidney paper revises RSA-2048 break to 1M noisy qubits in <1 weekHow: Google Quantum AI publishes paper showing RSA-2048 breakable with ~1M noisy qubits in under one week, down from 20M previouslySource: https://research.google/blog/safeguarding-cryptocurrency-by-disclosing-quantum-vulnerabilities-responsibly/conf 95%Notes: HIT — Gidney's revision is the technical justification for advancing Q-Day to 2029. 20x reduction in qubit-resource estimate.
- 2026-03-25hitGoogle announces 2029 Q-Day deadline for post-quantum migrationHow: Google publicly announces 2029 deadline for quantum-safe encryption migration, advancing from prior 2035+ industry expectationSource: https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/technology/safety-security/cryptography-migration-timeline/conf 99%Notes: HIT — Google's official Q-Day 2029 announcement. Direct realization of prediction's anchor claim.
- 2026-06-30pendingAndroid 17 ships post-quantum cryptography by defaultHow: Google ships Android 17 with PQC algorithms (e.g., ML-KEM/Kyber) integrated for default encrypted trafficSource: https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/technology/safety-security/cryptography-migration-timeline/conf 85%Notes: Google publicly committed to PQC in Android 17 by June 2026. Operational migration milestone.
- 2026-01-01 → 2029-06-30pendingCloudflare reaches full post-quantum security across edge by 2029How: Cloudflare reports >=95% PQC coverage on outbound and inbound TLS traffic by Q2 2029Source: https://blog.cloudflare.com/post-quantum-roadmap/conf 75%
- 2027-06-01 → 2029-06-30pendingGoogle announces logical-qubit milestone capable of factoring small RSAHow: Google or competitor publishes peer-reviewed result demonstrating Shor's algorithm at logical-qubit scale capable of factoring >=1024-bit numbersSource: Google Quantum AI publications, Nature/Science journalsconf 40%
- 2029-02-05pendingQ1 window check-in (25%)
- 2029-03-13pendingQ2 window check-in (50%)
- 2029-04-18pendingQ3 window check-in (75%)
- 2028-06-01 → 2030-06-30pendingFirst reported real-world post-quantum cryptographic compromise (harvest-now-decrypt-later)How: Verified report of nation-state actor decrypting historic captured ciphertext using quantum techniquesSource: NSA, NIST, Mandiant threat intelligenceconf 20%Notes: Cascade — extreme tail event but the practical realization of Q-Day.
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Edges that influence THIS node's belief
| Kind | Node | Their prob | P(c|s=T) | P(c|s=F) | Δ implied |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| prereq | SEM_040 Bitcoin treasury/business strategy allows companies to outpa — Michael Saylor | 47.8% | 0.550 | 0.050 | -0.172 |
| killer | TK05 Rate Regime Persistence (10y > 5% through 2028) | 30.0% | 0.050 | 0.550 | -0.058 |
| killer | TK12 Crypto Regulatory Kill Shot (Stablecoin Ban / BTC ETF Revers | 8.0% | 0.050 | 0.550 | +0.052 |
| killer | TK10 $100T Sovereign Debt Crisis | 12.0% | 0.050 | 0.550 | +0.032 |
| prereq | SEM_039 Block unveiled proprietary Bitcoin mining ASIC at 709 Teraha — Jack Dorsey | 82.8% | 0.550 | 0.050 | +0.003 |
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Predictions THIS node influences
| Kind | Node | Their prob | P(c|s=T) | P(c|s=F) | Δ implied |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| prereq | 246_003 Global economy will grow 10x in 10 years (cited from Elon Mu — Elon Musk | 37.3% | 0.550 | 0.050 | -0.098 |
| prereq | 248_009 Elon Musk's economy will grow 10x in about 10 years. — Elon Musk | 37.3% | 0.550 | 0.050 | -0.098 |
| prereq | 239_027 Diamandis cites Musk: triple-digit GDP growth in 5+ years — Elon Musk | 34.0% | 0.500 | 0.050 | -0.087 |
| prereq | 239_001 Global economy will be 10x its current size in 10 years — Elon Musk | 37.7% | 0.600 | 0.050 | -0.080 |
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Prerequisites (5)
| Type | Pred | Title | Domain | Lag |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| prereq | SEM_039 | Block unveiled proprietary Bitcoin mining ASIC at 709 Terahashes/second (TH/s) — leading indicator for eventual AI inference ASIC trajectory. | Semis/ASICs | — |
| prereq | SEM_040 | Bitcoin treasury/business strategy allows companies to outpace rival enterprise software firms by 10x to 30x in performance. | Finance/Crypto | — |
| killer | TK05 | Rate Regime Persistence (10y > 5% through 2028) | — | — |
| killer | TK10 | $100T Sovereign Debt Crisis | — | — |
| killer | TK12 | Crypto Regulatory Kill Shot (Stablecoin Ban / BTC ETF Reversal) | — | — |
Dependents (4)
| Type | Pred | Title | Domain | Lag |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| prereq | 239_001 | Global economy will be 10x its current size in 10 years | Macro/Economy | — |
| prereq | 246_003 | Global economy will grow 10x in 10 years (cited from Elon Musk). | Macro/Economy | — |
| prereq | 248_009 | Elon Musk's economy will grow 10x in about 10 years. | Macro/Economy | — |
| prereq | 239_027 | Diamandis cites Musk: triple-digit GDP growth in 5+ years | Macro/Economy | — |
Linked documents (10)
| Sim | Source | Title | Market prob | Polarity | Reviewed | Published |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 0.654 | manifold | Will a quantum computing CEO go to jail before 2030? | 45% | mentions | pending | 2026-05-18 |
| 0.641 | edgar_8k | Quantum Computing Inc. (QUBT) (CIK 0001758009) | — | mentions | pending | 2026-05-18 |
| 0.641 | edgar_8k | Quantum Computing Inc. (QUBT) (CIK 0001758009) | — | mentions | pending | 2026-05-11 |
| 0.631 | polymarket | Will Satoshi move any Bitcoin in 2026? | 8% | mentions | pending | 2026-01-09 |
| 0.630 | manifold | Will Bitcoin close above $100,000 on any day between April 29 and July 31, 2026? | 19% | mentions | pending | 2026-04-29 |
| 0.626 | polymarket | Will Satoshi's identity be revealed by December 31? | 6% | mentions | pending | 2026-04-09 |
| 0.624 | manifold | Will Bitcoin close above $90,000 on any day between May 8 and July 31, 2026? | 40% | mentions | pending | 2026-05-08 |
| 0.612 | manifold | Will Chainlink go up in the next 24 hours? | 55% | mentions | pending | 2026-05-18 |
| 0.608 | edgar_8k | D-Wave Quantum Inc. (QBTS) (CIK 0001907982) | — | mentions | pending | 2026-05-12 |
| 0.608 | edgar_8k | D-Wave Quantum Inc. (QBTS) (CIK 0001907982) | — | mentions | pending | 2026-05-13 |
Raw metadata
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