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Earth-scale Dyson swarm in solar synchronous orbit will be built regardless of physics.

Predictor: Alex Wissner-Gross · ep#235 "Amazon's $35B AGI Ultimatum to OpenAI & Anthropic Drops AI Safety | EP #235" · source

Prior probability
45.0%
Current probability
26.2%
evolves via intake + LBP
Conviction
3/5
Signal quality
C
Resolution
pending
Window
2070-06-01 – 2070-06-30
Edges in / out
21 / 0
Tickers exposed
33

Prediction text

Earth-scale Dyson swarm in solar synchronous orbit will be built regardless of physics. | I I think for an Earthscale or Earth centered Dyson swarm in solar synchronous orbit SSO that looks like a a Saturn ring, I think we're probably going to build that regardless.

Watch events: Starcloud Blackwell satellite (Oct 2026); Google Project Suncatcher demo satellite; FCC DC filings

Verbatim quote

From episode "Amazon's $35B AGI Ultimatum to OpenAI & Anthropic Drops AI Safety | EP #235"
I I think for an Earthscale or Earth centered Dyson swarm in solar synchronous orbit SSO that looks like a a Saturn ring, I think we're probably going to build that regardless.

Predictor: Alex Wissner-Gross

κ + Brier as of 2026-05-22
κ (discount)
0.844
Brier
0.0341
excellent
Hits / Misses
6 / 1
of 11 resolved
Hit rate
54.5%
Calibration plot (stated vs observed)

Evidence about this node from Alex Wissner-Gross is multiplied by κ in /api/intake. Lower κ = less weight; floors at 0.10 (effectively silenced) and caps at 1.00 (full weight).

Reference class

Not linked

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Probability over time

4 prob_history rows
0%25%50%75%100%prior 45%2026-04-302026-05-032026-05-10
intake v2milestone miss sweeplbp propagationreference class assignedlegacy v1prior_prob (analyst seed)current = 26.2%

Milestone chain

Pre-event signals (upstream prereqs + window checkpoints) → resolution event → downstream cascades. Status/dates update from linked nodes; re-derive nightly via scripts/ops/derive_milestones.py.
Leading chain: 11 pending
  1. 2026-06-01 → 2028-12-31pendingSpaceX Starship V2 / V3 reaches operational orbital cadence enabling massive low-cost LEO/SSO mass to orbit
    How: SpaceX achieves ≥50 successful orbital Starship missions in calendar year, with payload to LEO ≥10kt cumulative
    Source: deep_research_enrichedconf 45%
  2. 2030-01-01 → 2035-12-31pendingFirst MW-scale solar array deployed in solar-synchronous orbit by commercial operator
    How: Public announcement + radar/optical confirmation of ≥1 MW PV array in SSO operated by commercial entity (SpaceX, Lumen, China)
    Source: deep_research_enrichedconf 30%
  3. 2032-01-01 → 2040-12-31pendingFirst commercial AI/data-center workload runs in space (≥1 MW compute orbital)
    How: Operator (Starcloud, Lumen, etc.) confirms ≥1 MW IT load in orbital data center serving paying AI customers
    Source: deep_research_enrichedconf 25%
  4. 2040-01-01 → 2055-12-31pendingLunar mass driver / cislunar resource extraction first demonstration (precondition for Dyson swarm scale)
    How: Public mission profile + telemetry confirms operational lunar mass driver delivering material to LEO/L1 staging site
    Source: deep_research_enrichedconf 10%
  5. 2055-01-01 → 2070-06-30pendingFirst Saturn-ring-scale SSO array reaches fractional Earth-energy-budget capture (≥0.1% Earth energy demand)
    How: IEA/UN-tracked off-world solar capture provides ≥0.1% of Earth's annual primary energy supply
    Source: deep_research_enrichedconf 3%

No downstream cascades — this prediction is a leaf in the dependency graph.

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Evidence chain

Every probability update with full Bayesian provenance — chronological, latest first
LBP2026-05-10T02:00:02Z26.2%-1.5pp
Network propagation: 27.6% → 26.2%
6-iter LBP, residual 0.00584 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v3 · run e5c18d29
LBP2026-05-03T02:00:01Z27.6%-2.7pp
Network propagation: 30.3% → 27.6%
6-iter LBP, residual 0.00677 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v3 · run 1a683ac9
LBP2026-04-30T16:39:51Z30.3%-4.9pp
Network propagation: 35.2% → 30.3%
5-iter LBP, residual 0.00825 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v2 · run 0c8a4ea3
LBP2026-04-30T02:18:57Z35.2%-9.8pp
Network propagation: 45.0% → 35.2%
5-iter LBP, residual 0.00825 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v1 · run 592311ef

Network propagation neighbors

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Edges that influence THIS node's belief

KindNodeTheir probP(c|s=T)P(c|s=F)Δ implied
killerTK15
SpaceX Starship Catastrophic Failure
12.0%0.0500.450+0.140
prereq232_049
Dyson swarm of AI orbital data centers will be built by disaAlex Wissner-Gross
19.0%0.4500.050-0.140
prereq248_003
SpaceX plans to launch 40,000 V3 Starlink satellites and thePeter Diamandis
79.2%0.4500.050+0.100
prereq237_028
Abundance Summit will live-stream Eric Schmidt, Uber CEO DarPeter Diamandis
77.9%0.4500.050+0.097
prereq231_032
Everyone (China included) will want their own Dyson swarms/SAlex Wissner-Gross
31.2%0.4500.050-0.092

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Ticker exposure

33 ticker(s) linked

Beneficiaries (22)

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Adverse (3)

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Prerequisites (21)

Predictions that must hit first
TypePredTitleDomainLag
prereq237_028Abundance Summit will live-stream Eric Schmidt, Uber CEO Dara Khosrowshahi, and a WTF Moonshot podcast this year.Media/Ads
prereq230_016Data center regulation in NY/elsewhere will accelerate moving compute to orbit (Dyson swarm).Space
prereq248_003SpaceX plans to launch 40,000 V3 Starlink satellites and then 120,000 V4 satellites.Space
prereq246_001SpaceX will IPO at $2 trillion valuation, raising $75 billion as largest IPO in history.Markets/Stocks
prereq246_013Artemis 4 crewed moon landing mission to south pole in early 2028.Space
prereq231_037Dyson swarm launchers will not be a SpaceX singleton; many orgs will launch their own.Space
prereqSEM_043SpaceX is actively exploring deployment of data centers in space — seeking regulatory permission immediately as rivals investigate orbital compute.Space/Compute
prereq238_003Moonshots podcast team will soon move into an Airbnb for continuous podcastingMedia/Ads
prereq242_005Starship launch cadence will reach one every 5.3 minutes (274/day)Space
prereq246_010SpaceX/XAI/Tesla will be the first $100 trillion company within 5 years.Markets/Stocks
prereq242_037China will land on the moon before end of 2030Space
prereq230_033Intelligence explosion shockwave propagates from math → physical sciences → planetary systems, Dyson swarm by early 2030s.AI
prereq246_020China will land on moon by 2030 (credible competitive mission).Geopolitics
prereq242_007Prediction markets favor $2T+ SpaceX IPO pricing in Terafab valueMarkets/Stocks
prereq231_032Everyone (China included) will want their own Dyson swarms/Saturnian rings in solar-synchronous orbit.Space
prereq234_040Elon predicts FSD and Starlink may reverse urbanization in AmericaReal Estate
prereq232_045Tesla and SpaceX each aim to generate 100 gigawatts of solar per year.Energy
prereq242_051Dyson swarm compute infrastructure will be realized in a few yearsSpace
prereq246_009SpaceX and Tesla will NOT merge absent financial distress or capital need.Markets/Stocks
prereq232_049Dyson swarm of AI orbital data centers will be built by disassembling the moon via mass drivers.Space
killerTK15SpaceX Starship Catastrophic Failure

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Linked documents (10)

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