In cities people mostly won't own cars once autonomy mainstream (subscription model).
Predictor: Salim Ismail · ep#246 "SpaceX Goes Public, Claude's Mythos Release, and the US Data Center Delay | EP #246" · source
Prediction text
In cities people mostly won't own cars once autonomy mainstream (subscription model). | they mostly won't own cars at least in cities right in rural areas I think we'll see car ownership maintained for a long time but car ownership is an artifact of low utilization economics once you have autonomy converting the car from a consumer product to a service layer essentially it becomes a subscription model
Verbatim quote
they mostly won't own cars at least in cities right in rural areas I think we'll see car ownership maintained for a long time but car ownership is an artifact of low utilization economics once you have autonomy converting the car from a consumer product to a service layer essentially it becomes a subscription model
Predictor: Salim Ismail
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Reference class
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Probability over time
Milestone chain
- 2026-02-24overdueWaymo serves 10+ US cities (utilization scale-up)How: Waymo operates commercially in >=10 US cities — already validated by TechCrunch reporting Feb 2026Source: https://techcrunch.com/2026/02/24/waymo-robotaxis-are-now-operating-in-10-us-cities/conf 99%Notes: Already validated — 10-city milestone passed Feb 2026.
- 2026-10-25pendingQ1 window check-in (25%)
- 2026-06-01 → 2027-12-31pendingRobotaxi $/mile drops below $2 in flagship metroHow: Waymo / Tesla Robotaxi / Zoox average $/mile in San Francisco or Phoenix drops below $2 — rapid descent from current ~$8/mileSource: https://www.ladnatech.com/2026/03/stop-wasting-money-on-car-ownership-how.htmlconf 60%
- 2027-04-22pendingQ2 window check-in (50%)
- 2026-06-01 → 2028-06-30pendingSubscription mobility product launches (Uber One AV, Waymo Plus)How: Major operator launches monthly subscription robotaxi product replacing pay-per-ride — operationalizing Ismail's 'subscription model' framingSource: Uber, Waymo, Tesla press releasesconf 55%
- 2026-06-01 → 2028-12-31pendingGoldman / Morgan Stanley / RethinkX update peak-car forecast earlierHow: Major analyst (GS, MS, BCG, RethinkX) brings forward urban peak-car forecast by >=3 years — implicit ratification of Ismail thesisSource: https://www.goldmansachs.com/insights/articles/robotaxis-to-become-a-400-billion-dollar-market-in-2035conf 50%
- 2027-10-17pendingQ3 window check-in (75%)
- 2027-01-01 → 2028-12-31pendingFirst major US city sees measurable car-ownership decline (>5%)How: Census/DMV data shows >=5% YoY drop in private car ownership in San Francisco, Manhattan, or Boston urban core — directly attributable to AV substitutionSource: Census ACS, state DMV registration dataconf 45%
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Evidence chain
Raw metadata
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}Network propagation neighbors
Top incoming (parents)
Edges that influence THIS node's belief
| Kind | Node | Their prob | P(c|s=T) | P(c|s=F) | Δ implied |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| prereq | S_ROBOTAXI_NATIONWIDE_2028 Robotaxi nationwide expansion by Nov 2028 | 45.0% | 0.550 | 0.050 | -0.136 |
| killer | TK03 AI Regulatory Moratorium (EU/US Capability Freeze) | 10.0% | 0.050 | 0.550 | +0.089 |
| killer | TK02 AI Compute Supply Shock (TSMC/Taiwan Disruption) | 12.0% | 0.050 | 0.550 | +0.079 |
| killer | TK01 AGI Capability Plateau (2026-27 Training Stall) | 15.0% | 0.050 | 0.550 | +0.064 |
| killer | TK09 Energy Grid Cap (Data Center Power Wall) | 35.0% | 0.050 | 0.550 | -0.036 |
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Adverse (6)
Prerequisites (6)
| Type | Pred | Title | Domain | Lag |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| prereq | S_ROBOTAXI_NATIONWIDE_2028 | Robotaxi nationwide expansion by Nov 2028 | robotaxi_deployment | — |
| killer | TK09 | Energy Grid Cap (Data Center Power Wall) | — | — |
| killer | TK05 | Rate Regime Persistence (10y > 5% through 2028) | — | — |
| killer | TK01 | AGI Capability Plateau (2026-27 Training Stall) | — | — |
| killer | TK02 | AI Compute Supply Shock (TSMC/Taiwan Disruption) | — | — |
| killer | TK03 | AI Regulatory Moratorium (EU/US Capability Freeze) | — | — |
Dependents (0)
| Type | Pred | Title | Domain | Lag |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| No dependents | ||||
Raw metadata
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