New car manufacturing demand will collapse by ~50% due to AV utilization
Predictor: Salim Ismail · ep#242 "Elon Enters the Chip Race, the S&P 500 Repricing, and Human Drivers Will Become Illegal | EP #242" · source
Prediction text
New car manufacturing demand will collapse by ~50% due to AV utilization | Today, we make close to 100 million new cars a year. And they sit empty 94% of the time. So, even if you drop that by 50% in utility, you basically collapse the need for past the car industry instantly
Verbatim quote
Today, we make close to 100 million new cars a year. And they sit empty 94% of the time. So, even if you drop that by 50% in utility, you basically collapse the need for past the car industry instantly
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Probability over time
Milestone chain
- 2026-09-01 → 2027-06-30pendingWaymo crosses 1M weekly paid robotaxi ridesHow: Waymo (or Alphabet) discloses >=1,000,000 paid rider-only rides per week, sustained for >=4 weeksSource: Waymo executive guidance 2026 (3,000 vehicles, 500K weekly rides target → 1M EOY)conf 70%
- 2028-11-08pendingQ1 window check-in (25%)
- 2028-06-01 → 2030-12-31pendingGlobal robotaxi fleet exceeds 100,000 vehiclesHow: Industry tracker confirms >=100,000 commercial robotaxis operating globally (rider-only) per IIHS, SAE, or independent benchmarkSource: Patentpc/programming-helper 934K-by-2035 forecast + 82.6% CAGRconf 55%
- 2028-01-01 → 2031-06-30pendingCommercial robotaxi cost per mile drops below private-car ownership costHow: Independent analysis (AAA, Edmunds, MIT) confirms average robotaxi $/mile pricing falls below total cost of ownership of average new vehicleSource: Required precondition for utilization-collapse hypothesisconf 50%
- 2028-01-01 → 2031-12-31pendingFirst top-10 auto OEM cuts new-model production volume by >=10% citing AV substitutionHow: Public 8-K or annual report from top-10 global OEM cites AV/robotaxi substitution as material reason for cutting model-year volume by >=10%Source: Salim Ismail collapse thesis + scaling AV deploymentconf 40%
- 2031-05-20pendingQ2 window check-in (50%)
- 2030-01-01 → 2034-12-31pendingUS new car sales fall below 12M units (from ~16M baseline) in single yearHow: Bureau of Economic Analysis / Wards Intelligence reports US new-car-sales <12M in a calendar year, with AV utilization cited as material driverSource: Ismail 50% collapse thesis + 16M baselineconf 35%
- 2033-11-28pendingQ3 window check-in (75%)
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| Kind | Node | Their prob | P(c|s=T) | P(c|s=F) | Δ implied |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| prereq | S_ASI_SLOW_2040PLUS ASI slow: post-2040 / soft takeoff | 60.0% | 0.550 | 0.050 | -0.106 |
| killer | TK03 AI Regulatory Moratorium (EU/US Capability Freeze) | 10.0% | 0.050 | 0.550 | +0.044 |
| killer | TK01 AGI Capability Plateau (2026-27 Training Stall) | 15.0% | 0.050 | 0.550 | +0.019 |
| killer | TK14 Superbubble Pop (S&P 500 -40%, Moonshot Capital Evaporates) | 20.0% | 0.050 | 0.550 | -0.006 |
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| Type | Pred | Title | Domain | Lag |
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| prereq | S_ASI_SLOW_2040PLUS | ASI slow: post-2040 / soft takeoff | asi_recursive_self_improvement | — |
| killer | TK14 | Superbubble Pop (S&P 500 -40%, Moonshot Capital Evaporates) | — | — |
| killer | TK01 | AGI Capability Plateau (2026-27 Training Stall) | — | — |
| killer | TK03 | AI Regulatory Moratorium (EU/US Capability Freeze) | — | — |
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Raw metadata
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