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Apple will soon pit Amazon (Global Star) against SpaceX Starlink as dual satellite vendors.

Predictor: Alex Wissner-Gross · ep#248 "Sam Altman's Attack, Amazon vs. Starlink, and What Opus 4.7 Actually Means | #248" · source

Prior probability
45.0%
Current probability
42.0%
evolves via intake + LBP
Conviction
3/5
Signal quality
C
Resolution
pending
Window
2026-01-01 – 2028-10-31
Edges in / out
2 / 5
Tickers exposed
26

Prediction text

Apple will soon pit Amazon (Global Star) against SpaceX Starlink as dual satellite vendors. | I would bet that Apple in short term ends up pitting Amazon, the new global star owner, against SpaceX Starlink, to have at least two vendors for global space to cell phone service. And this is this becomes the the new alternative to terrestrial networks in two years.

Watch events: SpaceX IPO roadshow (Jun 2026); Starship V3 orbital test; Starlink V3 launch cadence; Apple WWDC 2026 June 8-12 keynote

Verbatim quote

From episode "Sam Altman's Attack, Amazon vs. Starlink, and What Opus 4.7 Actually Means | #248"
I would bet that Apple in short term ends up pitting Amazon, the new global star owner, against SpaceX Starlink, to have at least two vendors for global space to cell phone service. And this is this becomes the the new alternative to terrestrial networks in two years.

Predictor: Alex Wissner-Gross

κ + Brier as of 2026-05-22
κ (discount)
0.844
Brier
0.0341
excellent
Hits / Misses
6 / 1
of 11 resolved
Hit rate
54.5%
Calibration plot (stated vs observed)

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Reference class

Not linked

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Probability over time

2 prob_history rows
0%25%50%75%100%prior 45%2026-04-302026-05-03
intake v2milestone miss sweeplbp propagationreference class assignedlegacy v1prior_prob (analyst seed)current = 42.0%

Milestone chain

Pre-event signals (upstream prereqs + window checkpoints) → resolution event → downstream cascades. Status/dates update from linked nodes; re-derive nightly via scripts/ops/derive_milestones.py.
Leading chain: 1 fired ✓ · 7 pending
  1. 2026-06-15pendingQ1 window check-in (25%)
  2. 2026-06-01 → 2026-07-30pendingAmazon Leo deploys >50% of FCC-mandated 1,618 satellites
    How: Amazon (Project Kuiper / Amazon Leo) deploys 1,618+ satellites by July 2026 FCC deadline (50% of 3,236 total FCC commitment)
    Source: FCC requires Amazon to deploy half of 3,236 satellites by July 2026; ~3,200 by 2029conf 55%
  3. 2026-04-14hitApple announces Amazon Globalstar / Project Kuiper as iPhone satellite vendor
    How: Apple publicly confirms second satellite vendor partnership beyond exclusive Globalstar legacy deal — pitting Amazon constellation OR SpaceX Starlink against incumbent
    Source: Amazon $11.6B Globalstar acquisition + long-term Apple partnership announced April 14 2026 — Amazon Leo to power iPhone/Apple Watch satellite featuresconf 95%
    Notes: HIT — Amazon $11.57B Globalstar acquisition confirmed April 14 2026 with explicit Apple long-term partnership for iPhone/Apple Watch satellite. Wissner-Gross's prediction validated within 1 year window.
  4. 2026-11-28pendingQ2 window check-in (50%)
  5. 2027-05-12pendingQ3 window check-in (75%)
  6. 2026-09-01 → 2028-06-30pendingApple satellite revenue line item appears separately in 10-Q
    How: Apple breaks out Services / satellite revenue category, OR analyst estimates satellite-services revenue >$1B annualized run-rate
    Source: Macroeconomic/financial analyst projections post-Globalstar dealconf 30%
  7. 2026-06-01 → 2028-10-31pendingiPhone formally adds SpaceX Starlink as second-vendor option
    How: Apple announces SpaceX Starlink direct-to-cell integration on iPhone as official second satellite vendor (separate from Apple-Globalstar/Amazon)
    Source: Wissner-Gross's specific dual-vendor framing; competitive pressure from T-Mobile-Starlink already liveconf 30%
    Notes: Direct test of 'pitting' framing — requires both vendors active on iPhone.
  8. 2026-06-01 → 2028-12-31pendingDirect-to-device satellite cellular displaces terrestrial backup for emergency / SOS
    How: Major US carrier (Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile) reports satellite-to-phone services exceeding terrestrial backup volume for SOS/emergency use
    Source: Starlink already has 670+ D2D sats covering 90% of unpopulated areas (April 2026)conf 55%

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Evidence chain

Every probability update with full Bayesian provenance — chronological, latest first
LBP2026-05-03T02:00:01Z42.0%-1.0pp
Network propagation: 43.0% → 42.0%
6-iter LBP, residual 0.00677 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v3 · run 1a683ac9
LBP2026-04-30T02:18:57Z43.0%-1.9pp
Network propagation: 45.0% → 43.0%
5-iter LBP, residual 0.00825 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v1 · run 592311ef

Network propagation neighbors

Top edges sorted by latest LBP cross-impact
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Top incoming (parents)

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KindNodeTheir probP(c|s=T)P(c|s=F)Δ implied
killerTK15
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12.0%0.0500.450-0.018
killerTK06
China-Taiwan Military Conflict
8.0%0.0500.450-0.002

Top outgoing (children)

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KindNodeTheir probP(c|s=T)P(c|s=F)Δ implied
prereq230_016
Data center regulation in NY/elsewhere will accelerate movinAlex Wissner-Gross
54.7%0.9200.050-0.136
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32.5%0.5000.050-0.088
prereq246_020
China will land on moon by 2030 (credible competitive missioAlex Wissner-Gross
31.7%0.5000.050-0.080
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Everyone (China included) will want their own Dyson swarms/SAlex Wissner-Gross
31.2%0.5000.050-0.076
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19.0%0.3000.050-0.037

Ticker exposure

26 ticker(s) linked

Beneficiaries (17)

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Adverse (4)

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Prerequisites (2)

Predictions that must hit first
TypePredTitleDomainLag
killerTK15SpaceX Starship Catastrophic Failure
killerTK06China-Taiwan Military Conflict

Dependents (5)

Predictions enabled by this
TypePredTitleDomainLag
prereq230_016Data center regulation in NY/elsewhere will accelerate moving compute to orbit (Dyson swarm).Space
prereq231_032Everyone (China included) will want their own Dyson swarms/Saturnian rings in solar-synchronous orbit.Space
prereq246_020China will land on moon by 2030 (credible competitive mission).Geopolitics
prereq232_046SpaceX will build a system that allows anyone to travel to moon and Mars after Starship V3 flies repeatedly.Space
prereq232_049Dyson swarm of AI orbital data centers will be built by disassembling the moon via mass drivers.Space

Expected milestones (1)

From Sheet 17 Monitoring Triggers
Expected byDescriptionStatus
2028-12-31[Space 2028-12] robably a year or two away from launch. [248_001] SpaceX IPO roadshow (Jun 2026); Starship V3 orbital test; Starlink V3 launch cadence; Apple WWDC 202pending

Linked documents (10)

Auto-generated by cosine similarity from Polymarket / Manifold / EDGAR / GDELT
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0.636edgar_8kGlobalstar, Inc. (GSAT) (CIK 0001366868)mentionspending2026-05-15
0.612manifoldStarmer out before August?16%mentionspending2026-06-01
0.604manifoldWill Apple stop selling the $599 MacBook Neo SKU before the end of 2026?26%mentionspending2026-05-08
0.601polymarketWill Apple be the third-largest company in the world by market cap on May 31?100%mentionspending2026-04-16
0.595manifoldStarmer out before November?59%mentionspending2026-06-06
0.590manifoldStarmer out before October?47%mentionspending2026-05-24
0.586manifoldWill Starmer contest a leadership challenge?61%mentionspending2026-05-14
0.571edgar_8kAST SpaceMobile, Inc. (ASTS) (CIK 0001780312)mentionspending2026-05-11
0.569edgar_8kGalaxy Digital Inc. (GLXY) (CIK 0001859392)mentionspending2026-05-08
0.556edgar_8kEchoStar CORP (SATS) (CIK 0001415404)mentionspending2026-06-01

Raw metadata

From Thesis_Timeline_v1.0_FINAL workbook
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