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Price of rides will come down with autonomous driving

Predictor: Dara Khosrowshahi · ep#243 "Uber vs. Tesla, Robotaxi Timelines, and the End of Human Driving | Uber CEO Dara Khosrowshahi | #243" · source

Prior probability
55.0%
Current probability
40.6%
evolves via intake + LBP
Conviction
3/5
Signal quality
C
Resolution
pending
Window
2026-04-30 – 2030-11-30
Edges in / out
3 / 0
Tickers exposed
31

Prediction text

Price of rides will come down with autonomous driving | And especially if the price starts coming down.

Watch events: Waymo 1M rides/wk (end-2026); Tesla Robotaxi scaling; NHTSA AV rules

Verbatim quote

From episode "Uber vs. Tesla, Robotaxi Timelines, and the End of Human Driving | Uber CEO Dara Khosrowshahi | #243"
And especially if the price starts coming down.

Predictor: Dara Khosrowshahi

κ + Brier as of 2026-05-22
κ (discount)
0.688
Brier
0.0105
excellent
Hits / Misses
2 / 0
of 3 resolved
Hit rate
66.7%
Calibration plot (stated vs observed)

Evidence about this node from Dara Khosrowshahi is multiplied by κ in /api/intake. Lower κ = less weight; floors at 0.10 (effectively silenced) and caps at 1.00 (full weight).

Reference class

Not linked

This node isn't linked to a reference class. The Bayesian update applies without outside-view blending.

Probability over time

5 prob_history rows
0%25%50%75%100%prior 55%2026-04-302026-05-032026-05-17
intake v2milestone miss sweeplbp propagationreference class assignedlegacy v1prior_prob (analyst seed)current = 40.6%

Milestone chain

Pre-event signals (upstream prereqs + window checkpoints) → resolution event → downstream cascades. Status/dates update from linked nodes; re-derive nightly via scripts/ops/derive_milestones.py.
Leading chain: 2 fired ✓ · 7 pending
  1. 2026-04-30hitWaymo per-mile pricing drops to <=$1/mile in major metros (vs ~$3.25/mile human baseline)
    How: Independent fare-tracking data shows average Waymo cost <=$1/mile across at least 3 metros
    Source: deep_research_enrichedconf 90%
  2. 2026-04-30hitTesla Robotaxi launches at $0.32/mile undercutting Waymo (with safety monitor)
    How: Tesla Robotaxi service operating at <=$0.50/mile in any US metro, even with monitor present
    Source: deep_research_enrichedconf 85%
  3. 2027-01-25pendingQ1 window check-in (25%)
  4. 2027-01-01 → 2028-06-30pendingRobotaxi fares hit 60% discount vs human-driven equivalent rides in mature markets
    How: ARK Invest or independent analyst confirms robotaxi $/mile <=40% of human-driven $/mile in 3+ metros
    Source: deep_research_enrichedconf 65%
  5. 2027-10-22pendingQ2 window check-in (50%)
  6. 2027-06-01 → 2028-12-31pendingRobotaxi available in >=20 US metros with sustained pricing competition
    How: Public service availability in >=20 US metros with two or more competing operators (Waymo + Tesla + others)
    Source: llm_enrichedconf 60%
  7. 2028-07-18pendingQ3 window check-in (75%)
  8. 2028-01-01 → 2029-04-15pendingPersonal car ownership rates begin measurable decline in robotaxi-saturated metros
    How: DOT or DMV registration data shows YoY decline in personal vehicle registrations in any robotaxi-saturated metro
    Source: llm_enrichedconf 45%
  9. 2028-06-01 → 2029-04-15pendingAverage US ride-hail fare per mile crosses below $0.75 (sustained quarterly average)
    How: Quarterly average ride-hail fare across Uber/Lyft/Waymo/Tesla weighted by trips drops below $0.75/mile
    Source: llm_enrichedconf 40%

No downstream cascades — this prediction is a leaf in the dependency graph.

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(live posterior: 41%)

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Evidence chain

Every probability update with full Bayesian provenance — chronological, latest first
LBP2026-05-17T02:00:01Z40.6%-1.6pp
Network propagation: 42.2% → 40.6%
5-iter LBP, residual 0.00689 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v3 · run e607fa96
LBP2026-05-10T02:00:02Z42.2%-3.2pp
Network propagation: 45.4% → 42.2%
6-iter LBP, residual 0.00584 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v3 · run e5c18d29
LBP2026-05-03T02:00:01Z45.4%-6.3pp
Network propagation: 51.7% → 45.4%
6-iter LBP, residual 0.00677 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v3 · run 1a683ac9
LBP2026-04-30T16:39:51Z51.7%-1.1pp
Network propagation: 52.8% → 51.7%
5-iter LBP, residual 0.00825 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v2 · run 0c8a4ea3
LBP2026-04-30T02:18:57Z52.8%-2.2pp
Network propagation: 55.0% → 52.8%
5-iter LBP, residual 0.00825 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v1 · run 592311ef

Network propagation neighbors

Top edges sorted by latest LBP cross-impact
All propagation →

Top incoming (parents)

Edges that influence THIS node's belief

KindNodeTheir probP(c|s=T)P(c|s=F)Δ implied
prereqS_ROBOTAXI_MASS_2030
Robotaxi >10% urban miles by Nov 2030
30.0%0.5500.050-0.206
killerTK06
China-Taiwan Military Conflict
8.0%0.0500.550+0.104
killerTK11
Autonomous Regulatory Block (Level 4 Halt)
10.0%0.0500.550+0.094

Top outgoing (children)

Predictions THIS node influences

No outgoing edges.

Ticker exposure

31 ticker(s) linked

Beneficiaries (24)

INVZWRDLIDRAEVAMBLYPONYOUSTVRRMAMBAAURAIOTHSAIMBGAFBIDUBMWYYGMGOOGLHMCIOTQCOMTMTSLAUBERVWAGY

Adverse (5)

MCYALLCINFPGRTRV

Prerequisites (3)

Predictions that must hit first
TypePredTitleDomainLag
prereqS_ROBOTAXI_MASS_2030Robotaxi >10% urban miles by Nov 2030robotaxi_deployment
killerTK11Autonomous Regulatory Block (Level 4 Halt)
killerTK06China-Taiwan Military Conflict

Dependents (0)

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Linked documents (5)

Auto-generated by cosine similarity from Polymarket / Manifold / EDGAR / GDELT
SimSourceTitleMarket probPolarityReviewedPublished
0.642manifoldNext day with a US average gas price decrease?mentionspending2026-05-03
0.593manifoldWill the US average gas price fall below $4.00 in June 2026?24%mentionspending2026-05-31
0.589manifoldWill the US average gas price fall below $4.00 in May 2026?11%mentionspending2026-04-30
0.586manifoldWill US Average Gas Price fall below $4.10 in May 2026?6%mentionspending2026-05-10
0.550manifoldWill national dry van spot rate be below $1.50/mile in June 2026?7%mentionspending2026-05-10

Raw metadata

From Thesis_Timeline_v1.0_FINAL workbook
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