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Humans will not take cows to the moon or Mars as foodstock

Predictor: Alex Wissner-Gross · ep#234 "Anthropic vs. The Pentagon, Claude Outpaces ChatGPT, and Consulting Gets Replaced" · source

Prior probability
45.0%
Current probability
30.0%
evolves via intake + LBP
Conviction
3/5
Signal quality
C
Resolution
pending
Window
2026-04-30 – 2029-03-31
Edges in / out
2 / 0
Tickers exposed
30

Prediction text

Humans will not take cows to the moon or Mars as foodstock | My guess and my hope is no. Not at least as food stock, you know, maybe in sort of a Noah's Arct we'll bring them. But I I just have difficulty imagining a future where live animals are killed outside the Earth like on the moon or Mars for for food.

Watch events: Starcloud Blackwell satellite (Oct 2026); Google Project Suncatcher demo satellite; FCC DC filings

Verbatim quote

From episode "Anthropic vs. The Pentagon, Claude Outpaces ChatGPT, and Consulting Gets Replaced"
My guess and my hope is no. Not at least as food stock, you know, maybe in sort of a Noah's Arct we'll bring them. But I I just have difficulty imagining a future where live animals are killed outside the Earth like on the moon or Mars for for food.

Predictor: Alex Wissner-Gross

κ + Brier as of 2026-05-22
κ (discount)
0.844
Brier
0.0341
excellent
Hits / Misses
6 / 1
of 11 resolved
Hit rate
54.5%
Calibration plot (stated vs observed)

Evidence about this node from Alex Wissner-Gross is multiplied by κ in /api/intake. Lower κ = less weight; floors at 0.10 (effectively silenced) and caps at 1.00 (full weight).

Reference class

Not linked

This node isn't linked to a reference class. The Bayesian update applies without outside-view blending.

Probability over time

5 prob_history rows
0%25%50%75%100%prior 45%2026-04-302026-05-032026-05-17
intake v2milestone miss sweeplbp propagationreference class assignedlegacy v1prior_prob (analyst seed)current = 30.0%

Milestone chain

Pre-event signals (upstream prereqs + window checkpoints) → resolution event → downstream cascades. Status/dates update from linked nodes; re-derive nightly via scripts/ops/derive_milestones.py.
Leading chain: 1 fired ✓ · 5 pending
  1. 2024-11-01hitSmithsonian + frontier research consensus: Mars colony food likely lab-grown meat / cell-cultured / plant-based, not livestock
    How: Mainstream science press (Smithsonian, Frontiers, Wikipedia SpaceX Mars program) document mainstream solution stack as algae/insect/lab-grown protein — no live cattle in baseline plans
    Source: deep_research_enrichedconf 90%
  2. 2026-10-22pendingQ1 window check-in (25%)
  3. 2026-11-01 → 2027-04-30pendingSpaceX 2026/27 Mars cargo window — uncrewed Starship Mars cargo attempt
    How: SpaceX attempts at least one Starship cargo trans-Mars-injection burn in the 2026/27 launch window; manifest publicly disclosed and contains no livestock payloads
    Source: deep_research_enrichedconf 40%
  4. 2027-04-16pendingQ2 window check-in (50%)
  5. 2027-10-08pendingQ3 window check-in (75%)
  6. 2027-01-01 → 2029-03-31pendingInternational space-law / planetary-protection guidance bans live-animal foodstock transit
    How: COSPAR / UN COPUOS / NASA Office of Planetary Protection publishes binding or de-facto policy that prohibits live-animal foodstock transit on planetary missions
    Source: deep_research_enrichedconf 40%
  7. 2028-08-01 → 2029-03-31pendingSpaceX / NASA 2028/29 expanded launch window — manifest disclosure
    How: Public manifest for 2028-29 Hohmann window includes only crew, cargo, food substrates, plant seed, microbial protein cultures — zero livestock confirmation
    Source: deep_research_enrichedconf 55%

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(live posterior: 30%)

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Evidence chain

Every probability update with full Bayesian provenance — chronological, latest first
LBP2026-05-17T02:00:01Z30.0%-1.5pp
Network propagation: 31.6% → 30.0%
5-iter LBP, residual 0.00689 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v3 · run e607fa96
LBP2026-05-10T02:00:02Z31.6%-3.2pp
Network propagation: 34.8% → 31.6%
6-iter LBP, residual 0.00584 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v3 · run e5c18d29
LBP2026-05-03T02:00:01Z34.8%-6.7pp
Network propagation: 41.5% → 34.8%
6-iter LBP, residual 0.00677 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v3 · run 1a683ac9
LBP2026-04-30T16:39:51Z41.5%-1.2pp
Network propagation: 42.7% → 41.5%
5-iter LBP, residual 0.00825 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v2 · run 0c8a4ea3
LBP2026-04-30T02:18:57Z42.7%-2.3pp
Network propagation: 45.0% → 42.7%
5-iter LBP, residual 0.00825 · damping 0.5, w_intrinsic 0.5 · method lbp_v1 · run 592311ef

Network propagation neighbors

Top edges sorted by latest LBP cross-impact
All propagation →

Top incoming (parents)

Edges that influence THIS node's belief

KindNodeTheir probP(c|s=T)P(c|s=F)Δ implied
prereqS_AGI_MID_2029
AGI mid: Kurzweil 2029 path
35.0%0.4500.050-0.110
killerTK15
SpaceX Starship Catastrophic Failure
12.0%0.0500.450+0.102

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No outgoing edges.

Ticker exposure

30 ticker(s) linked

Beneficiaries (22)

PLBKSYTSEMLUNRSKYTMRCYNNEGSATRKLBASTSIRDMAMZNBABAESYIFNNYLHXLMTMCHPNOCSTMTDGTXN

Adverse (3)

DISHVSATSES

Prerequisites (2)

Predictions that must hit first
TypePredTitleDomainLag
prereqS_AGI_MID_2029AGI mid: Kurzweil 2029 pathagi_general_capability
killerTK15SpaceX Starship Catastrophic Failure

Dependents (0)

Predictions enabled by this
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Linked documents (1)

Auto-generated by cosine similarity from Polymarket / Manifold / EDGAR / GDELT
SimSourceTitleMarket probPolarityReviewedPublished
0.552manifoldWill I restrict my food-buying behaviour in line with this market in May?47%mentionspending2026-05-01

Raw metadata

From Thesis_Timeline_v1.0_FINAL workbook
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  "mode": "PREDICTION",
  "role": "Host",
  "context": "I asked myself the just on this topic, Peter, the question, are humans going to take cows to the moon or Mars? And my guess and my hope is no. Not at least as food stock, you know, maybe in sort of a Noah's Arct we'll bring them. But I I just have difficulty imagining a future where live animals are killed outside the Earth like on the moon or Mars for for food.",
  "verbatim": "My guess and my hope is no. Not at least as food stock, you know, maybe in sort of a Noah's Arct we'll bring them. But I I just have difficulty imagining a future where live animals are killed outside the Earth like on the moon or Mars for for food.",
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