Humans will not take cows to the moon or Mars as foodstock
Predictor: Alex Wissner-Gross · ep#234 "Anthropic vs. The Pentagon, Claude Outpaces ChatGPT, and Consulting Gets Replaced" · source
Prediction text
Humans will not take cows to the moon or Mars as foodstock | My guess and my hope is no. Not at least as food stock, you know, maybe in sort of a Noah's Arct we'll bring them. But I I just have difficulty imagining a future where live animals are killed outside the Earth like on the moon or Mars for for food.
Watch events: Starcloud Blackwell satellite (Oct 2026); Google Project Suncatcher demo satellite; FCC DC filings
Verbatim quote
My guess and my hope is no. Not at least as food stock, you know, maybe in sort of a Noah's Arct we'll bring them. But I I just have difficulty imagining a future where live animals are killed outside the Earth like on the moon or Mars for for food.
Predictor: Alex Wissner-Gross
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Milestone chain
- 2024-11-01hitSmithsonian + frontier research consensus: Mars colony food likely lab-grown meat / cell-cultured / plant-based, not livestockHow: Mainstream science press (Smithsonian, Frontiers, Wikipedia SpaceX Mars program) document mainstream solution stack as algae/insect/lab-grown protein — no live cattle in baseline plansSource: deep_research_enrichedconf 90%
- 2026-10-22pendingQ1 window check-in (25%)
- 2026-11-01 → 2027-04-30pendingSpaceX 2026/27 Mars cargo window — uncrewed Starship Mars cargo attemptHow: SpaceX attempts at least one Starship cargo trans-Mars-injection burn in the 2026/27 launch window; manifest publicly disclosed and contains no livestock payloadsSource: deep_research_enrichedconf 40%
- 2027-04-16pendingQ2 window check-in (50%)
- 2027-10-08pendingQ3 window check-in (75%)
- 2027-01-01 → 2029-03-31pendingInternational space-law / planetary-protection guidance bans live-animal foodstock transitHow: COSPAR / UN COPUOS / NASA Office of Planetary Protection publishes binding or de-facto policy that prohibits live-animal foodstock transit on planetary missionsSource: deep_research_enrichedconf 40%
- 2028-08-01 → 2029-03-31pendingSpaceX / NASA 2028/29 expanded launch window — manifest disclosureHow: Public manifest for 2028-29 Hohmann window includes only crew, cargo, food substrates, plant seed, microbial protein cultures — zero livestock confirmationSource: deep_research_enrichedconf 55%
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| Kind | Node | Their prob | P(c|s=T) | P(c|s=F) | Δ implied |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| prereq | S_AGI_MID_2029 AGI mid: Kurzweil 2029 path | 35.0% | 0.450 | 0.050 | -0.110 |
| killer | TK15 SpaceX Starship Catastrophic Failure | 12.0% | 0.050 | 0.450 | +0.102 |
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Prerequisites (2)
| Type | Pred | Title | Domain | Lag |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| prereq | S_AGI_MID_2029 | AGI mid: Kurzweil 2029 path | agi_general_capability | — |
| killer | TK15 | SpaceX Starship Catastrophic Failure | — | — |
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| Type | Pred | Title | Domain | Lag |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| No dependents | ||||
Linked documents (1)
| Sim | Source | Title | Market prob | Polarity | Reviewed | Published |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 0.552 | manifold | Will I restrict my food-buying behaviour in line with this market in May? | 47% | mentions | pending | 2026-05-01 |
Raw metadata
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"context": "I asked myself the just on this topic, Peter, the question, are humans going to take cows to the moon or Mars? And my guess and my hope is no. Not at least as food stock, you know, maybe in sort of a Noah's Arct we'll bring them. But I I just have difficulty imagining a future where live animals are killed outside the Earth like on the moon or Mars for for food.",
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